Message from @Creampie
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Yes the mother is needed but that's because that's how reproduction works
How do you define alive?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3713799/%23:~:text%3DAccording%2520to%2520them%252C%2520the%2520fetus,or%2520more%2520as%2520human%2520being.&ved=2ahUKEwjNlP7Nl8btAhUszTgGHbEqCmYQFjABegQIAhAE&usg=AOvVaw1xGrGHBTr__jznZe8OJ0fn
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.bbc.com/ethics/abortion/child/alive_1.shtml&ved=2ahUKEwjNlP7Nl8btAhUszTgGHbEqCmYQFjAIegQIFRAB&usg=AOvVaw0_4W-a1fQW4fFAFEILbEY7
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.bbc.com/ethics/abortion/child/alive_1.shtml&ved=2ahUKEwjNlP7Nl8btAhUszTgGHbEqCmYQFjAIegQIFRAB&usg=AOvVaw0_4W-a1fQW4fFAFEILbEY7
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.wired.com/2015/10/science-cant-say-babys-life-begins/amp&ved=2ahUKEwjNlP7Nl8btAhUszTgGHbEqCmYQFjAJegQIFxAB&usg=AOvVaw2RRXedPrgvNFOeJwwDcfhq&cf=1
Yes. It is. Plants are alive. But once again, no potential to become human.
And, the sentence would be “That’s not how *I* define alive”
Well the point of, people on machineries after birth ARE alive. Their brain functions, they respond to stimuli and stuff like that. A fetus before a heartbeat dosent
This is how I define it.
People who are in commas don’t, either.
I am trying to read them stop messaging me
You can't argue that a person before going into a coma didn't show these qualities
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/high-school-biology/hs-biology-foundations/hs-biology-and-the-scientific-method/a/what-is-life
And if someone has a heart attack, their heart isn’t beating.. but there is still an effort to keep them alive. Or bring them back.
Well yes. It's called a vegetative state. But we know for sure that they were alive BEFORE the attack
Yeah, and biology shows that an infant is alive before a heartbeat
Bruh..I sent 4 links
Read them
I did
Wdym where?
Like if you pull up your profile
Yeah
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That's how this whole convo began
Dude you couldn't even scroll up *sigh*
Ok so I will say it again
That's a but much lol
I think abortion is ok till the fetus isint alive, which imo, is the point till which it gets a heart beat
Which is 18 weeks right?
No
Near 10
On avg
10 weeks?
What about the rest of it, is the heart beat the only thing that matters ?
It’s actually 6-8
Ig
Not “ig”. I’ve done research.. It’s on average 6-8.
Well by definition. I think that makes it clearly alive. I would prefer something like brain activity, but that's very hard to judge
That's sad
I don't care
That's the point at which