Message from @Kitty Lee
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I would take every bit of the time given if I was in their boots. They need to make sure every word is correct. They will have teams of people proof reading it before it’s turned in.
I didn’t know Alaska and Ohio had joined.
Ok so he agrees but didn't join
Alaska didn’t have the time to join
Fair enough... I can't see SCOTUS not hearing Texas v. Penn... Way too many states have joined Texas for it to be ignored. But you are right if I were a lawyer and I was drafting that response... It probably would not be filed with the court until 2:59PM EST... not to annoy everyone watching but to make sure everything is perfect. Also, in all honesty though if I were drafting the response, I would do so in such a way that invited the SCOTUS to take the case and make a lasting precedence on behalf of the defense, and not to dismiss it on a standing or other potentially procedural issue, etc. Dismissing this without reviewing the merits would create an even bigger clusterf@#k.
That said. I am on the side of the plaintiffs here. There were some potentially major Constitutional Issues in those 4 states. And the best remedy I could think of is to return the decision to the state legislatures as the Constitution says the legislature has the exclusive power to choose the electors and let them make a decision on the electors they send to vote.
PA response is a riot... Calling Texas seditious....
Did they respond?
Oh, boy, did they!
But, ultimately, this is exactly what we're looking for. DO NOT WANT a Chinese proxy as president, and their election shenanigans have put us at risk of having a chinese proxy as president, vice president, and if you look at his cabinet picks... It's gonna be a bad trip.
"The authority to adjudicate original disputes between States is of a “delicate and grave* * * character,” Louisiana v. Texas, 176 U.S. 1, 15 (1900), because it calls upon the Courtto exercise the “extraor-dinary” power “to control the conduct of one state at the suit of another,”
"The “model case” for exercise of original jurisdic-tion is an interstate dispute “of such seriousness that it would amount to casus belliif the States were fully sovereign.” Texas,462 U.S.at 571, n.18"
I mean... Yeah... That's kind of what this is.
Do you think the DNC want a lasting precedent from this? Do they really want to open the door for the GOP to commit overt fraud every election?
They opened the door to this... Should have run their elections fairly, openly and securely...
Michigan also filed
By that logic should the states that joined PA be subtracted from those that sided with the criminal TX 🤔
I agree with you anti fish don't start none won't be none they changed every rule through the court bullied our people and now wanna say bullshit we have been silenced and quieted and big tech and every other slimy way to get over and your gonna say there's. Nothing to see here
@staryeyez, you just advanced to level 1!
Any news from the decision of SCOTUS?
The more I have thought about it honestly even if the parties were reversed I would have been of the mind that SCOTUS needs to take this case. To me this isn't about Republicans and Democrats, Trump or Biden this is about rule of law and the Constitution.
And given all that SCOTUS is very unlikely to reverse the election. Even if they ruled the changes in each state violated the Constitution. Because it would be difficult to know which votes are legitimate and which were not. They aren't going to directly disenfranchise that many voters. However, they could still issue a ruling that all further elections including the upcoming run offs in GA have to use the election laws that have been Constitutionally passed by the individual legislatures with no modifications. They could also rule that the voter roles need to be evaluated and purged of persons who are not eligible for absentee/mail-in ballots. And they could issue guidance to prevent something similar from happening in the future.
All of which is far more important for the integrity of our elections. And would go a long way to calm everything down and regain the unity of the United States.
I am not a lawyer, but am a former LEO so I do understand some pieces of the law and I do find the law and legal principles interesting, which is why I am here. I'd be happy to hear some other opinions about this, preferably without all the political rhetoric or ad hominem. Just for the sake of sanity if nothing else.
First of all thank you for your service. The Supreme Court is not deciding to overturn the election. If they side with Texas they will hand it over to the legislators in those states to choose their electors.
That would be tantamount to overturning the election.
Not if those electors cast their votes for Biden
All 4 states have a majority Republican if I understand correctly.
Yeah but their could be some break always
Some states republicans only have a 1-2 majority over the Dems
Also they can decide not to cast their electors if SCOTUS sides with Texas
True thought. If scotus overturn election, this NOT separation of power
If they side with Texas they won’t be deciding the election or overturning it. It would be saying that those states conducted their elections illegally and the states legislators will have to decide how to cast their electors.
@codyhere2004, you just advanced to level 4!
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I agree. Scotus should not over step power then constitution is useless
Scotus has jurisdiction when there is conflict between states.
Scotus just needs to clarify
Maybe, my thought was that the guidance might actually be the best outcome. I am not looking forward to the next 4 years with a Biden/Harris administration but with the guidance in place to prevent this from happening again would be best.
As an ardent 2A supporter I am actually borderline dreading it. Especially if SCOTUS refuses to hear this case and does nothing since there is nothing preventing them from doing it again in the GA run off and getting a 50/50 split in the senate.
Rewrite constitution as little as possible