It's the middle of the night here in Australia but I've been addicted to the election for 2 days! Can not believe Nevada just decides to 'pause counting' for 27 hrs ... That is not a thing here. Counting keeps happening till there's nothing left to count.

And the idea that currently Detroit is basically deciding the leader of the free world ...
We love you Americans! ... but seriously?

Michigan difference 135k, Wisconsin 20k

According to Fox News currently

135k I don't think can move with a recount. 20k seems unlikely but totally possible

Insane that Jorgensen's share would actually make up the difference if added to Trump...

I thinl they should duel it out.

Lol I mean with votes, not 'behind the shed' 😅

Ikr

But hey either wat

*way

If I was in a safe seat for my prefered candidate I would totally vote 3rd party

But in this scenario ... eeek

The Bernie people lol

And I'm Australian haha

Tbh American politics is so dirty, all the best ideas are too politically charged for otherwise decent candidates to support. Health care safety net for example.

Lol Sky News sucks

A couple of the hosts are good. Overall they're just so dodgy.

ABC is clearly partisan (leans left) but overall gets the info you need once you sift through the bias (if you're able to). I studied journalism so I get really irritated with a lot of it.

Haha yes Aussie dialect

But left or right leaning, I get anniyed at the simple failure to show both sides. Disrn is run by (hilarious) right leaning people but their short, uncommentaried news articles are refreshing to read. You finish the page and suddenly realise you've been left to make up your own mind about the information.

True story

Yep. Be interested to see where Greenwald goes now.

I've joined so many alternative platforms lately. Looks like Substack will be next

Wot

https://nypost.com/2020/10/29/glenn-greenwald-exits-intercept-damning-the-lockstep-liberal-media/

How can you be Democrat and not know who Glenn Greenwald is 😂😅

Edward Snowden's media contact

Yeah truth

So

Glenn Greenwald. Solid lefty who broke the Snowden story. Founded (with two others) hard lefty news outlet The Intercept. Left because the editors at his own outlet censored him. I'm keen to see what he gets up to now.

I don't even have TV lol

Sorry just setting my daughter up to dig her dirt-pit in an appropriate spot the garden lol

Libertarian ftw

... says the Australian with no guaranteed freedom of speech

Gotta love how an actual error that did cause an irregularity prompts 'unfounded' claims lol

More like 'founded but remedied'.

I think TomWilliam is asking if, supposing someone wanted to seek asylum in the US, they would be able to if blue wins

TomWilliam Democrats ie blue have historically been seen as more welcoming of refugees. But political asylum is still amd always has been available in the USA. At different times, asylum seekers might have been required to meet different standards of proof that thet were really refugees and not just trying to immigrate for financial reasons etc without going through the legal channels.

*pops in to check what's happening on new favourite chat site*

Check out Viva Frei amd Robert Barnes discussing applying the first ammendment to social media monopolies vs other forms of section 230 reform

Considering recent judgement by Thomas

Yeah the 230 reform would reduce censorship, not increase it.

Defamation is relevant when it affects the individual defamed... ie Rittenhouse when Biden suggested he was a white supremacist, potentially polluting the jury pool

Haha most laws if done dumbly destroy stuff

Not at all. Unless your blog has 70% of all blog traffic lol

Standard definition of monopoly

Yeah nah

Multiple arguments there, fave topic of mine, maybe we need a new chat lol

Can we have a Free Speech / Section 230 chat Mr Gruler plis? 😁

https://youtu.be/CElJEVMrnto

Yeah I've looked into it. Far better example here: https://youtu.be/JM2o9e-pwoE

My father in law (Polish) survived Auschwitz. Brainwashing and psychological transformation is totally possible but not likely to happen within a few weeks without a major cataclysmic event imho ☺

* grandfather-in-law

Crazier things have happened imho and the republic is still standing 🙂 Biden is weak as overcooked noodles (a discount variety at that), and if he's as incompetent as making law now as he's ever been (should he get in), in 4 years a new President shouldn't have too much trouble fixing it up. Although there will be lots of human suffering in the meantime for sure, people jailed for stupid things. All this assuming WWIII doesn't happen in the meantime. But good people are not powerless - there is a lot of good work to be done regardless of who is in the White House 🙂 Trying to be positive! Maybe slightly easier being on the other side of the world...

I think the experiment has largely been used to 'prove' what is likely to happen in the absence of external factors, and that seems to be the conclusion encouraged by the researchers 🙂

I agree a tyrant is within each of us. I just disagree that the experiment does much to prove that.

If key participants stated they were in fact 'acting' the whole time, in such a small sample I would suggest that puts the experiment largely out of the pool of useful research

Oh for sure, but that's not what the Stanford experiment was about, no? The idea was without authoritarian leaders, individuals are still likelu to devolve into cruelty.

So the authoritarian doctor in the Stanford scenario is one of guards who's taken control?

I can see that.

It really depends on who gets the leadership in a lot of ways. But again if the 'pack leader' in the experiment was 'acting'....

I agree.

We're basically turning the scotus chat into a Petersonesque discussion lol

For sure.

I think Ordinary Men is still far better example

Sure

Have a good one!

If 'Marcy's Law' as you describe is accurate, that is totally insane!

Watching Huber's interview on CNN weeks ago made me sick.

He's not legit going to ban fracking imho. The Dem bureaucracy and corporatism is as much alive (dead) as Republican has ever been.

He'll just stuff the whole state with red tape

Far bigger than a dozen or a hundred votes missing here and there is the ballot harvesting going on pre election day. Possibly totaling hundreds of thousands through the organised system.

Who ever said the policy had to make sense? 😛

Huh?

I'm saying the slathers of red tape on industry strategy is not smart

But still likely if Biden wins

Yeah we got that message sent in FB messenger too.

No idea if it's legit. There are a loooot of weird and wishful theories out there.

16D chess lol

If it is that would be amazing for sure.

I still really wonder ... I mean, if I was masterminding an election steal this is something I'd look at ... how hard would it be to go over the voter rolls from 10, 20 years ago, get 1/5 of the people who've passed in each year amd request their ballots, to be forwarded to a certain address? Either I've got a uniquely masterful criminal mind or someone else has tried it.

Also developing a network of people to 'help' elderly registered voters who cam.be easilu convinced. I'm a qualified aged care worker among a bazillion other things and the stuff that goes under the radar is incredible.
Totally different system here in Aus tho

And elderly people who've been 'helped' is also foolproof. No way to prove anything. Unless you get secretly recorded by Prpject Veritas lol

Saw that. The website (or more accurately thos running it) presents an actually terrifying look into what could happen if a free country decends into madness. Ministry of Truth indeed. Will we end up with a Department of Cancelling?

Goodness, I just looked up the Arizona stats, less than 20k difference 😮 Insaaane

But it would be hilarious 😅

I thinl BeaterX is just complaining about the nature of politicians lol

I don't get the media sharing victory speeches when there are literally cases in court. The election has been decided by the courts before. You'd think you'd want to wait for that 🤔

> The media doesn't decide who is president. They're not going to not televise victory speeches.
@Zuluzeit

Oh sorry I misread your message 😅

I missed the double negative...

I don't care about Fox marking Arizona. I don't think it was some power move. Just trying to be the firsr to accurately call something. It's competitive.

You mean you weren't not talking about it the night after the night before last?

😂

It would still be hilarious if it goes Trump.

It's difficult being such a close election. At the same time I'm glad it wasn't a landslide. If it was, the gloating would be worse I think. Like see, the overwhelming majority of the nation despises you...

Two wrongs don't make a right, amiright? 🤣

I'm all for the locking up lol. At least a proper trial for those with good evidence of wrongdoing. But the ordinary citizens lashing each other is heartbreaking honestly.

No lock her up was the line about Clinton