I understand that emotions run high and he just wanted to explain himself, but you never...ever...under any circumstances...talk to the police.

@Neph (Nec) / Krystaps (War) https://youtu.be/WBy9L0gcqGY?t=43

all due respect to the venerable Mr. Ayoob...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

> Rule #1: Do not talk to the police
@Neph (Nec) / Krystaps (War)

I don't think that Kyle was raised to have a healthy skepticism of police.

Yea, he wasn't.

But when you're on the other end of the system, well

@Neph (Nec) / Krystaps (War) I am aware of that argument.

you have to protect yoursellf

im not sure you are protecting yourself by not telling the police the guy you defended yourself against had 3 buddies who just fled in a BMW

The reasoning is that anything you say can be used against you. It can never be used FOR you, but it can be used against you. And even if you are absolutely positively telling the truth, there is no way that you can know that you haven't said anything that can be used to implicate you in something

That is the basics, yes.

In this politically charged atmosphere, it is tricky.

If you shoot a guy in self defense, and his buddy picks up the weapon and just stands by the gas pump 50 feet away waiting for the police to arrive to watch you get arrested, not pointing out to the LEO that the weapon your opponent just had might be in the pocket of the blue over black standing in the crowd, might seem like a bad idea.

That may be, but that is far and away not similar to what we are talking about here

which is being in an interrogation room with a police officer

I did not catch that context. You just said: "Rule #1: Do not talk to the police
EVER"

are you changing the scene?

Even then, how does that help you?

The police would have to build a case against you

It helps you because if you point out the blue over black, and the LEO walks over and aquires the firearm that was just in the possession of the man you shot, it can change the case somewhat.

If you do not, it looks like you just shot an unarmed man.

doesn't matter what you know. it matters what you can prove

how does the LEO know that the guy's firearm in his buddy's pocket is the guy's firearm anyway?

i just don't see that helping you

ok

MAYBE it can

but...

well, I tried.

either way, the likelihood that speaking to a police officer about your guilt/innocence in a manner that will actually help you is astronomically low compared to the likelihood that it will help them build a case agaisnt you

long story short: i'd rather get arrested and give them nothing than probably still get arrested anyway and potentially give them something with which to convict me

I think you guys as are talking past eachother

When he says "never talk to the police" it isn't literal

@Doc you taking it too literal

A. Of course you tell the police if there is another shooter at large

B. Of course you call the police if you killed someone in self defense

Then you need to talk to the police.

C. Of course you point out evidence on the ground or wherever if the police miss it

then you would need to acquire the cooperation of the police.

that takes communication.

So now the "dont talk to the police -EVER" rule seems to be less of a rule, right?