Message from @Doc

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2020-11-11 21:46:17 UTC  

Appreciate it!

2020-11-11 21:47:08 UTC  

It seems like being a little pointed and then using well thought out metaphors works best at getting through to many and I forget myself in respectable company sometimes.

2020-11-11 21:49:34 UTC  

It's part of the channel rules is all.

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2020-11-11 21:52:04 UTC  

Aye no, I apologize either way. I cant demand people are held accountable if I cant hold myself as such.

2020-11-11 21:53:06 UTC  

All good! More of a heads up for other folks as well.

2020-11-11 21:53:58 UTC  

Since we understand this is highly politically-charged and people are extremely divided on this case.

2020-11-11 21:56:27 UTC  

Hey that was me in the stream saying we shouldnt ban ALL trolly comments right away, need to hold out and hopefully reach people. So I see exactly how what Im doing is hypocritical and its just venting. As realz said I hope to hold myself to higher standards because I am way more clever than that !

2020-11-11 21:59:10 UTC  

That's the spirit.

2020-11-12 14:43:30 UTC  

Rule #1: Do not talk to the police

2020-11-12 14:43:31 UTC  

EVER

2020-11-12 14:43:40 UTC  

That was Kyle's first mistake, not immediately requesting a lawyer

2020-11-12 14:44:02 UTC  

I understand that emotions run high and he just wanted to explain himself, but you never...ever...under any circumstances...talk to the police.

2020-11-12 14:49:06 UTC  

all due respect to the venerable Mr. Ayoob...

2020-11-12 14:49:09 UTC  

> Rule #1: Do not talk to the police
@Neph (Nec) / Krystaps (War)

I don't think that Kyle was raised to have a healthy skepticism of police.

2020-11-12 14:49:22 UTC  

Yea, he wasn't.

2020-11-12 14:49:27 UTC  

But when you're on the other end of the system, well

2020-11-12 14:49:33 UTC  

@Neph (Nec) / Krystaps (War) I am aware of that argument.

2020-11-12 14:49:36 UTC  

you have to protect yoursellf

2020-11-12 14:50:34 UTC  

im not sure you are protecting yourself by not telling the police the guy you defended yourself against had 3 buddies who just fled in a BMW

2020-11-12 14:51:20 UTC  

The reasoning is that anything you say can be used against you. It can never be used FOR you, but it can be used against you. And even if you are absolutely positively telling the truth, there is no way that you can know that you haven't said anything that can be used to implicate you in something

2020-11-12 14:51:29 UTC  

That is the basics, yes.

2020-11-12 14:52:11 UTC  

In this politically charged atmosphere, it is tricky.

2020-11-12 14:54:15 UTC  

If you shoot a guy in self defense, and his buddy picks up the weapon and just stands by the gas pump 50 feet away waiting for the police to arrive to watch you get arrested, not pointing out to the LEO that the weapon your opponent just had might be in the pocket of the blue over black standing in the crowd, might seem like a bad idea.

2020-11-12 14:55:14 UTC  

That may be, but that is far and away not similar to what we are talking about here

2020-11-12 14:55:19 UTC  

which is being in an interrogation room with a police officer

2020-11-12 14:55:52 UTC  

I did not catch that context. You just said: "Rule #1: Do not talk to the police
EVER"

2020-11-12 14:56:02 UTC  

are you changing the scene?

2020-11-12 14:56:14 UTC  

Even then, how does that help you?

2020-11-12 14:56:19 UTC  

The police would have to build a case against you

2020-11-12 14:56:55 UTC  

It helps you because if you point out the blue over black, and the LEO walks over and aquires the firearm that was just in the possession of the man you shot, it can change the case somewhat.

2020-11-12 14:57:04 UTC  

If you do not, it looks like you just shot an unarmed man.

2020-11-12 14:57:14 UTC  

doesn't matter what you know. it matters what you can prove

2020-11-12 14:57:53 UTC  

how does the LEO know that the guy's firearm in his buddy's pocket is the guy's firearm anyway?

2020-11-12 14:57:57 UTC  

i just don't see that helping you

2020-11-12 14:58:00 UTC  

ok

2020-11-12 14:58:00 UTC  

MAYBE it can

2020-11-12 14:58:02 UTC  

but...

2020-11-12 14:58:04 UTC  

well, I tried.

2020-11-12 15:00:21 UTC  

either way, the likelihood that speaking to a police officer about your guilt/innocence in a manner that will actually help you is astronomically low compared to the likelihood that it will help them build a case agaisnt you