Message from @realz

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2020-11-12 14:55:14 UTC  

That may be, but that is far and away not similar to what we are talking about here

2020-11-12 14:55:19 UTC  

which is being in an interrogation room with a police officer

2020-11-12 14:55:52 UTC  

I did not catch that context. You just said: "Rule #1: Do not talk to the police
EVER"

2020-11-12 14:56:02 UTC  

are you changing the scene?

2020-11-12 14:56:14 UTC  

Even then, how does that help you?

2020-11-12 14:56:19 UTC  

The police would have to build a case against you

2020-11-12 14:56:55 UTC  

It helps you because if you point out the blue over black, and the LEO walks over and aquires the firearm that was just in the possession of the man you shot, it can change the case somewhat.

2020-11-12 14:57:04 UTC  

If you do not, it looks like you just shot an unarmed man.

2020-11-12 14:57:14 UTC  

doesn't matter what you know. it matters what you can prove

2020-11-12 14:57:53 UTC  

how does the LEO know that the guy's firearm in his buddy's pocket is the guy's firearm anyway?

2020-11-12 14:57:57 UTC  

i just don't see that helping you

2020-11-12 14:58:00 UTC  

ok

2020-11-12 14:58:00 UTC  

MAYBE it can

2020-11-12 14:58:02 UTC  

but...

2020-11-12 14:58:04 UTC  

well, I tried.

2020-11-12 15:00:21 UTC  

either way, the likelihood that speaking to a police officer about your guilt/innocence in a manner that will actually help you is astronomically low compared to the likelihood that it will help them build a case agaisnt you

2020-11-12 15:06:13 UTC  

long story short: i'd rather get arrested and give them nothing than probably still get arrested anyway and potentially give them something with which to convict me

2020-11-12 15:37:50 UTC  

I think you guys as are talking past eachother

2020-11-12 15:38:09 UTC  

When he says "never talk to the police" it isn't literal

2020-11-12 15:38:24 UTC  

@Doc you taking it too literal

2020-11-12 15:38:46 UTC  

A. Of course you tell the police if there is another shooter at large

2020-11-12 15:39:04 UTC  

B. Of course you call the police if you killed someone in self defense

2020-11-12 15:39:04 UTC  

Then you need to talk to the police.

2020-11-12 15:39:32 UTC  

C. Of course you point out evidence on the ground or wherever if the police miss it

2020-11-12 15:40:01 UTC  

then you would need to acquire the cooperation of the police.

2020-11-12 15:40:14 UTC  

that takes communication.

2020-11-12 15:40:30 UTC  

So now the "dont talk to the police -EVER" rule seems to be less of a rule, right?

2020-11-12 15:40:31 UTC  

Yes if you are amelia bedilia

2020-11-12 15:40:59 UTC  

It is a short rule that has exceptions you are supposed to educate yourself on

2020-11-12 15:41:03 UTC  

I know a better rule: "If you act as your own defense, your client is an idiot."

2020-11-12 15:41:03 UTC  

You are now being intentionally obtuse. I never meant "don't say hi to police"

2020-11-12 15:41:04 UTC  

the context is

2020-11-12 15:41:10 UTC  

the police suspect you or want to question you

2020-11-12 15:41:15 UTC  

you do not answer questions without counsel present

2020-11-12 15:41:18 UTC  

point blank period

2020-11-12 15:41:31 UTC  

If you don't educate yourself on the exceptions, then it is a great rule because you will destroy yourself worse than shutting up if you aren't educated

2020-11-12 15:41:31 UTC  

so not EVER, just not when questioned

2020-11-12 15:41:35 UTC  

oh ffs

2020-11-12 15:41:57 UTC  

yea you can walk down the street and say "good afternoon, officer"

2020-11-12 15:42:09 UTC  

therefore you can say that my point is mute saying "don't ever talk to the police"

2020-11-12 15:42:11 UTC  

moot*