Message from @True

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2020-11-21 03:42:01 UTC  

Those guys go and go dont they?

2020-11-21 03:42:09 UTC  

apparently.

2020-11-21 03:42:35 UTC  

I have a bulldog. She gets after them at my parents house. Comes back pink with blood and sweat. No fox though.

2020-11-21 03:42:35 UTC  

@Benny2Toes, you just advanced to level 6!

2020-11-21 03:42:56 UTC  

You need a hound to go the distance.

2020-11-21 03:43:25 UTC  

Or a better scope😆

2020-11-21 03:43:40 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771200849351147581/779552588538445854/Foto0342.jpg

2020-11-21 03:44:00 UTC  

Get any snow up there? Lol

2020-11-21 03:44:10 UTC  

ya

2020-11-21 03:44:13 UTC  

What kind of dog is that? A Corso?

2020-11-21 03:44:17 UTC  

GSD

2020-11-21 03:44:39 UTC  

He must love it there

2020-11-21 03:45:01 UTC  

Looks quiet

2020-11-21 03:45:06 UTC  

He retired in 2018.

2020-11-21 03:45:14 UTC  

Ah, sry

2020-11-21 03:45:16 UTC  

Leukemia.

2020-11-21 03:45:29 UTC  

so am I.

2020-11-21 03:45:53 UTC  

will probably be my last.

2020-11-21 03:46:50 UTC  

It takes a lot out of you every time you lose one

2020-11-21 03:48:28 UTC  

Indeed. Barely survived the last.

2020-11-21 05:06:18 UTC  

@RobertGrulerEsq Rob, can we break from the election results to get an update on the high profile cases you were covering before? The dialog may be "no updates or still ongoing" but I think everyone would like a break from the stress that is the U.S. Presidential election.

2020-11-21 12:42:36 UTC  

Yes we are due for some updates this week, particularly on Rittenhouse.

2020-11-21 12:42:42 UTC  

Thanks for the nudge @True

2020-11-21 20:23:06 UTC  

How can they charge Rittenhouse as an adult for manslaughter but the crimes that make the case are only valid because he is a minor? Wouldn't they need to charge these separately? Aren't crimes commited as a juvenile inadmissible when you are an adult?

2020-11-21 20:34:52 UTC  

Juveniles usually are tried as adults (from my understanding) for a number of reasons, but the main factors are:
- The severity of the crime.
- The "close-age" exception (follows with the next factor)
- Is it reasonable to think he should have known better? Is it reasonable to think he was capable of making the rational decision that this was bad and against the law? Was he of a mentally sound mind? Is it reasonable to think he knew what he did was wrong?

2020-11-21 20:39:51 UTC  

Do I find it ironic that he was charged as an adult yet one of his charges is because he was a minor? Absolutely.

2020-11-21 20:40:25 UTC  

I've pointed it out numerous times.

2020-11-21 20:41:40 UTC  

I thought that juvenile offenses cannot be used against you as an adult. How can they use these against him to prove manslaughter?

2020-11-21 20:41:52 UTC  

Do I think because he was doing something illegal it means he forfeits his right to self defense? No. I don't think that should be the precedent.

2020-11-21 20:43:08 UTC  

Now if he was actively infringing on the rights of others? That's really the only case I can see for forfeiting your right to self defense.

2020-11-21 20:43:36 UTC  

Which I believe is the idea behind Wisconsin's self defense laws.

2020-11-21 20:44:43 UTC  

We'll see how it's ruled, but I have a feeling Wisconsin's laws are to be interpreted in commission with violent felonies or illegal acts that infringe on the rights of others when it talks of exceptions.

2020-11-21 20:44:50 UTC  

E.g: Burglary.

2020-11-21 20:45:01 UTC  

E.g: Grand Theft Auto.

2020-11-21 20:47:04 UTC  

I don't think you forfeit your right to self defense if you burn a dollar bill for instance.

2020-11-21 20:47:54 UTC  

I think the idea that it means any illegal activity means you forfeit your right to self defense is extreme and excessively unhelpful.

2020-11-21 20:51:37 UTC  

I would even argue that if you were to act in self defense in commission of a felony such as possessing a firearm as a convicted felon is potentially reasonable.

2020-11-21 20:53:51 UTC  

As it's not infringing on the rights of others.

2020-11-21 20:53:57 UTC  

And not acting as a instigator.

2020-11-21 20:55:28 UTC  

Kyle's weapons charges are a misdemeanor, maybe a felony since he admitted he actively went out in search of one, I'm not sure.

2020-11-21 20:55:37 UTC  

I'd have to look into it further.