from what i understand judge granted a no knock and they knocked anyway

any source on the warrant being downgraded?

Kentucky's AG.

yeah im just seeing a lot of things saying it was not executed as a no knock warrant

Do you really think that officers would just decide "Hey I'm going to knock instead for this no-knock warrant?" I mean, I'm using Occam's razor here.

Or do you think they were told to knock and announce?

i am going off of what is being reported and what the officers own statements are

not speculation

I mean, pretty sure Mattingly said exactly what I just said.

Jus saying.

`"The warrant for Taylor’s home was secured as a “no-knock” warrant, which allows police to enter a home without announcing themselves. Mattingly said in his recorded statement to investigators, however, that he and his team were told to knock on the door and announce themselves."` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIri7Xq0cVQ

so

they were issued a no knock warrant

being told is not changing the warrant

I mean, if you want to get into that level of semantic argument.

im not the one being semantic lol

since you decided that my statement was wrong even though it wasnt

Yes, because they were told to knock. I didn't exactly say you were wrong, I was attempting to further clarify.

Because your statement left out context, hence why I followed it up. I didn't say your facts were wrong.

yes but your context was incorrect, or half correct, and then you said i was being semantic

when i was just providing context for your context

Not really?

the warrant being downgraded

That's a matter of perspective I suppose.

That is true.

we are talking about legal proceedings so semantics are important

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It was downgraded. If it weren't, they'd not have knocked and announced.

And they'd not have been ordered/told to knock and announce.

who did the ordering?

I'm guessing one of their superiors, as these things usually go.

only a judge would have the authority to change a warrant right?

im not saying they werent ordered to do knock and announce

but

i dont believe the warrant itself was changed

This is where we'll get into a semantics argument between literal and figurative.

well

lets stick with literal

We both know the judge didn't issue a change in the warrant.

ok