Message from @ImNotGas

Discord ID: 787056781306101790


2020-12-11 20:32:09 UTC  

since you decided that my statement was wrong even though it wasnt

2020-12-11 20:32:57 UTC  

Yes, because they were told to knock. I didn't exactly say you were wrong, I was attempting to further clarify.

2020-12-11 20:35:51 UTC  

Because your statement left out context, hence why I followed it up. I didn't say your facts were wrong.

2020-12-11 20:37:37 UTC  

yes but your context was incorrect, or half correct, and then you said i was being semantic

2020-12-11 20:37:44 UTC  

when i was just providing context for your context

2020-12-11 20:37:45 UTC  

Not really?

2020-12-11 20:37:55 UTC  

the warrant being downgraded

2020-12-11 20:37:57 UTC  

That's a matter of perspective I suppose.

2020-12-11 20:38:00 UTC  

That is true.

2020-12-11 20:38:11 UTC  

we are talking about legal proceedings so semantics are important

2020-12-11 20:38:14 UTC  

😛

2020-12-11 20:38:33 UTC  

It was downgraded. If it weren't, they'd not have knocked and announced.

2020-12-11 20:38:56 UTC  

And they'd not have been ordered/told to knock and announce.

2020-12-11 20:39:46 UTC  

who did the ordering?

2020-12-11 20:40:05 UTC  

I'm guessing one of their superiors, as these things usually go.

2020-12-11 20:41:23 UTC  

only a judge would have the authority to change a warrant right?

2020-12-11 20:41:45 UTC  

im not saying they werent ordered to do knock and announce

2020-12-11 20:41:45 UTC  

but

2020-12-11 20:41:56 UTC  

i dont believe the warrant itself was changed

2020-12-11 20:42:09 UTC  

This is where we'll get into a semantics argument between literal and figurative.

2020-12-11 20:42:39 UTC  

well

2020-12-11 20:42:41 UTC  

lets stick with literal

2020-12-11 20:42:44 UTC  

We both know the judge didn't issue a change in the warrant.

2020-12-11 20:42:48 UTC  

ok

2020-12-11 20:42:56 UTC  

so the warrant wasnt changed, they were ordered to knock and announce

2020-12-11 20:43:10 UTC  

Which in my opinion is a downgraded warrant.

2020-12-11 20:43:10 UTC  

so we can pin the culpability for that on whoever did the ordering

2020-12-11 20:43:49 UTC  

Eh? I still think the culpability resides with whomever ordered the original warrant.

2020-12-11 20:44:30 UTC  

Unless we're trying to guess 'what would have been' if they were to execute it as a no-knock warrant.

2020-12-11 20:45:00 UTC  

i am not a fan of no knock warrants

2020-12-11 20:45:06 UTC  

Oh, I hate them.

2020-12-11 20:45:10 UTC  

They're anti-American.

2020-12-11 20:45:14 UTC  

but i would say in this case there would probably be less dead people

2020-12-11 20:45:24 UTC  

If executed as a no-knock?

2020-12-11 20:45:27 UTC  

yeah

2020-12-11 20:45:48 UTC  

of course if no warrant was issued there would be no dead people as well

2020-12-11 20:46:05 UTC  

You could certainly argue that, but I have a feeling he kept his gun close to him at all times.

2020-12-11 20:47:58 UTC  

Why were people not protesting before George Floyd?

2020-12-11 20:48:02 UTC  

Remember, they have to clear rooms, it would take a bit to reach the opposite end of the hall to overwhelm him.

2020-12-11 20:48:24 UTC  

@nainani there have been

2020-12-11 20:48:42 UTC  

but they were more localized