Message from @Maw
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Because your statement left out context, hence why I followed it up. I didn't say your facts were wrong.
yes but your context was incorrect, or half correct, and then you said i was being semantic
when i was just providing context for your context
Not really?
the warrant being downgraded
That's a matter of perspective I suppose.
That is true.
we are talking about legal proceedings so semantics are important
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It was downgraded. If it weren't, they'd not have knocked and announced.
And they'd not have been ordered/told to knock and announce.
who did the ordering?
I'm guessing one of their superiors, as these things usually go.
only a judge would have the authority to change a warrant right?
im not saying they werent ordered to do knock and announce
but
i dont believe the warrant itself was changed
This is where we'll get into a semantics argument between literal and figurative.
well
lets stick with literal
ok
so the warrant wasnt changed, they were ordered to knock and announce
Which in my opinion is a downgraded warrant.
so we can pin the culpability for that on whoever did the ordering
Eh? I still think the culpability resides with whomever ordered the original warrant.
Unless we're trying to guess 'what would have been' if they were to execute it as a no-knock warrant.
i am not a fan of no knock warrants
Oh, I hate them.
They're anti-American.
but i would say in this case there would probably be less dead people
If executed as a no-knock?
yeah
of course if no warrant was issued there would be no dead people as well
You could certainly argue that, but I have a feeling he kept his gun close to him at all times.
Why were people not protesting before George Floyd?
Remember, they have to clear rooms, it would take a bit to reach the opposite end of the hall to overwhelm him.
but they were more localized
not widespread
Breonna Taylor happened before Floyd IIRC.