yes but your context was incorrect, or half correct, and then you said i was being semantic

when i was just providing context for your context

Not really?

the warrant being downgraded

That's a matter of perspective I suppose.

That is true.

we are talking about legal proceedings so semantics are important

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It was downgraded. If it weren't, they'd not have knocked and announced.

And they'd not have been ordered/told to knock and announce.

who did the ordering?

I'm guessing one of their superiors, as these things usually go.

only a judge would have the authority to change a warrant right?

im not saying they werent ordered to do knock and announce

but

i dont believe the warrant itself was changed

This is where we'll get into a semantics argument between literal and figurative.

well

lets stick with literal

We both know the judge didn't issue a change in the warrant.

ok

so the warrant wasnt changed, they were ordered to knock and announce

Which in my opinion is a downgraded warrant.

so we can pin the culpability for that on whoever did the ordering

Eh? I still think the culpability resides with whomever ordered the original warrant.

Unless we're trying to guess 'what would have been' if they were to execute it as a no-knock warrant.

i am not a fan of no knock warrants

Oh, I hate them.

They're anti-American.

but i would say in this case there would probably be less dead people

If executed as a no-knock?

yeah

of course if no warrant was issued there would be no dead people as well

You could certainly argue that, but I have a feeling he kept his gun close to him at all times.

Why were people not protesting before George Floyd?

Remember, they have to clear rooms, it would take a bit to reach the opposite end of the hall to overwhelm him.

@nainani there have been

but they were more localized

not widespread

Breonna Taylor happened before Floyd IIRC.

March? I think? May?