Message from @ImNotGas

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2020-12-11 18:22:49 UTC  

why

2020-12-11 18:23:02 UTC  

dunno why they did

2020-12-11 18:23:11 UTC  

probably wouldve gone a lot smoother if they didnt

2020-12-11 19:50:38 UTC  

It wasn't a no-knock warrant when they were there.

2020-12-11 19:50:46 UTC  

It had been downgraded.

2020-12-11 20:09:29 UTC  

from what i understand judge granted a no knock and they knocked anyway

2020-12-11 20:10:48 UTC  

any source on the warrant being downgraded?

2020-12-11 20:17:17 UTC  

Kentucky's AG.

2020-12-11 20:18:37 UTC  

yeah im just seeing a lot of things saying it was not executed as a no knock warrant

2020-12-11 20:23:41 UTC  

Do you really think that officers would just decide "Hey I'm going to knock instead for this no-knock warrant?" I mean, I'm using Occam's razor here.

2020-12-11 20:23:55 UTC  

Or do you think they were told to knock and announce?

2020-12-11 20:24:43 UTC  

i am going off of what is being reported and what the officers own statements are

2020-12-11 20:24:49 UTC  

not speculation

2020-12-11 20:26:03 UTC  

I mean, pretty sure Mattingly said exactly what I just said.

2020-12-11 20:26:08 UTC  

Jus saying.

2020-12-11 20:26:58 UTC  

`"The warrant for Taylor’s home was secured as a “no-knock” warrant, which allows police to enter a home without announcing themselves. Mattingly said in his recorded statement to investigators, however, that he and his team were told to knock on the door and announce themselves."` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIri7Xq0cVQ

2020-12-11 20:29:59 UTC  

so

2020-12-11 20:30:04 UTC  

they were issued a no knock warrant

2020-12-11 20:30:14 UTC  

being told is not changing the warrant

2020-12-11 20:31:39 UTC  

I mean, if you want to get into that level of semantic argument.

2020-12-11 20:31:53 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771200918053584916/787054073017794570/unknown.png

2020-12-11 20:32:02 UTC  

im not the one being semantic lol

2020-12-11 20:32:09 UTC  

since you decided that my statement was wrong even though it wasnt

2020-12-11 20:32:57 UTC  

Yes, because they were told to knock. I didn't exactly say you were wrong, I was attempting to further clarify.

2020-12-11 20:35:51 UTC  

Because your statement left out context, hence why I followed it up. I didn't say your facts were wrong.

2020-12-11 20:37:37 UTC  

yes but your context was incorrect, or half correct, and then you said i was being semantic

2020-12-11 20:37:44 UTC  

when i was just providing context for your context

2020-12-11 20:37:45 UTC  

Not really?

2020-12-11 20:37:55 UTC  

the warrant being downgraded

2020-12-11 20:37:57 UTC  

That's a matter of perspective I suppose.

2020-12-11 20:38:00 UTC  

That is true.

2020-12-11 20:38:11 UTC  

we are talking about legal proceedings so semantics are important

2020-12-11 20:38:14 UTC  

😛

2020-12-11 20:38:33 UTC  

It was downgraded. If it weren't, they'd not have knocked and announced.

2020-12-11 20:38:56 UTC  

And they'd not have been ordered/told to knock and announce.

2020-12-11 20:39:46 UTC  

who did the ordering?

2020-12-11 20:40:05 UTC  

I'm guessing one of their superiors, as these things usually go.

2020-12-11 20:41:23 UTC  

only a judge would have the authority to change a warrant right?

2020-12-11 20:41:45 UTC  

im not saying they werent ordered to do knock and announce

2020-12-11 20:41:45 UTC  

but

2020-12-11 20:41:56 UTC  

i dont believe the warrant itself was changed