Message from @Liberty or Death

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2020-12-28 16:54:51 UTC  

Oh please.... it was clearly a personal attack

2020-12-28 16:55:34 UTC  

I don't see how this is relevant, I already told both of you to stop flinging insults at each other, but you're the one that continued after I said such, hence why I told you SPECIFICALLY to stop.

2020-12-28 16:56:04 UTC  

I stand by your position being complete ridiculous. That I must be a Marxist to be a BLM Supporter. That I must support it 100% along with each and every person "in" that group while you can qualify your support of the police. Its a double standaard.

2020-12-28 16:56:14 UTC  

?

2020-12-28 16:56:32 UTC  

sorry, didn't mean to hit reply

2020-12-28 16:57:19 UTC  

No, that was not my position. I asked if you supported their ideology. You responded by getting mad.

2020-12-28 16:57:26 UTC  

have a good day.

2020-12-28 16:57:58 UTC  

And yes you did ask a question about being ashamed about being white. I think its stupid to be ashamed or take pride in skin pigment (regardless of the hue of that pigment).

I also can hold that position while saying that people should not be treated differently because of that pigment. Those two positions are not contrary in any way.

2020-12-28 16:58:38 UTC  

Agreed 100%.

2020-12-28 16:58:56 UTC  

No I did not ask that question.

2020-12-28 16:59:15 UTC  

@Liberty or Death your statement:
"...so, you are absolutely for Marxism and the destruction of the nuclear family, believe that being on time is a form of white supremecy,and want critical ract theory to be taught in school so students are trained to a) have a victim mentality or b) feel ashamed of being white?
bad police officers need to be prosecuted. But not all police are bad people."

2020-12-28 16:59:55 UTC  

I think people really don't understand marxism.

2020-12-28 17:00:04 UTC  

They don't

2020-12-28 17:00:05 UTC  

Yes, that was my question. But as you can see I did not ask if you were ashamed of being white. Reread

2020-12-28 17:00:10 UTC  

It's become bastardized like most other things in culture.

2020-12-28 17:00:12 UTC  

But that is beside the point

2020-12-28 17:00:27 UTC  

No, the communist manifesto is very easy to read

2020-12-28 17:00:36 UTC  

That's not really marxism.

2020-12-28 17:00:51 UTC  

Marx was more an ancom than a literal communist. Lenin took it a different way though.

2020-12-28 17:00:59 UTC  

What you're talking about is leninism.

2020-12-28 17:01:07 UTC  

So, the communist manifesto, written by Marx, is not really Marxism?

2020-12-28 17:01:58 UTC  

no, I am speaking directly to Marxism. Lenin and Stalin instituted it, Mao perfected it.

2020-12-28 17:02:01 UTC  

It is silly to assert or even believe that someone who supports the BLM MOVEMENT must then also be a Marxists and long for the "destruction of the nuclear family"
And then toss out some horseshit about "being on time" which I can only assume is you trying to assert that black people are always late? Is that what you are saying @Liberty or Death ?

2020-12-28 17:02:20 UTC  

Not the leninism version that the USSR adopted.

2020-12-28 17:03:47 UTC  

No, I did not assert black people are always late. That is one of the tenants taught in African American studies and CRT courses, and the founder of BLM said it.

2020-12-28 17:04:01 UTC  

People conflate marxism with leninism and stalinism/maoism which are very different.

2020-12-28 17:04:15 UTC  

Personally, I think any assertion of one life mattering over another based on rasceis in itself racist

2020-12-28 17:04:25 UTC  

not really

2020-12-28 17:04:27 UTC  

That isn't the idea of BLM.

2020-12-28 17:05:08 UTC  

Indeed it is, stated by their leaders many times.

2020-12-28 17:05:20 UTC  

... no?

2020-12-28 17:05:32 UTC  

Lives Matter. Putting a color of skin in front of that statement is racist

2020-12-28 17:05:40 UTC  

um...yes Maw

2020-12-28 17:05:49 UTC  

out of their own mouths.

2020-12-28 17:06:32 UTC  

Well, have a good day. Keep up the good work

2020-12-28 17:06:35 UTC  

@Liberty or Death, you just advanced to level 7!

2020-12-28 17:06:42 UTC  

No..? Like, I'm sure you have empathy enough to realize that BLM as an idea is to suggest that black people's lives matter **TOO**, as in they've mattered less historically for a very long time. They're not suggesting that "black lives matter, but not other lives matter" that's silly.

2020-12-28 17:07:53 UTC  

Just like saying "women's lives matter" isn't saying they're somehow more important than men.

2020-12-28 17:08:10 UTC  

Or being prideful in being gay is somehow saying gay people matter more than heterosexual people.

2020-12-28 17:08:19 UTC  

That's... kind of silly.

2020-12-28 17:09:08 UTC  

I personally think being prideful in being gay is sort of being vain, but I don't think it's actively malicious.