Message from @Maw

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2020-12-28 16:59:15 UTC  

@Liberty or Death your statement:
"...so, you are absolutely for Marxism and the destruction of the nuclear family, believe that being on time is a form of white supremecy,and want critical ract theory to be taught in school so students are trained to a) have a victim mentality or b) feel ashamed of being white?
bad police officers need to be prosecuted. But not all police are bad people."

2020-12-28 16:59:55 UTC  

I think people really don't understand marxism.

2020-12-28 17:00:04 UTC  

They don't

2020-12-28 17:00:05 UTC  

Yes, that was my question. But as you can see I did not ask if you were ashamed of being white. Reread

2020-12-28 17:00:10 UTC  

It's become bastardized like most other things in culture.

2020-12-28 17:00:12 UTC  

But that is beside the point

2020-12-28 17:00:27 UTC  

No, the communist manifesto is very easy to read

2020-12-28 17:00:36 UTC  

That's not really marxism.

2020-12-28 17:00:51 UTC  

Marx was more an ancom than a literal communist. Lenin took it a different way though.

2020-12-28 17:00:59 UTC  

What you're talking about is leninism.

2020-12-28 17:01:07 UTC  

So, the communist manifesto, written by Marx, is not really Marxism?

2020-12-28 17:01:58 UTC  

no, I am speaking directly to Marxism. Lenin and Stalin instituted it, Mao perfected it.

2020-12-28 17:02:01 UTC  

It is silly to assert or even believe that someone who supports the BLM MOVEMENT must then also be a Marxists and long for the "destruction of the nuclear family"
And then toss out some horseshit about "being on time" which I can only assume is you trying to assert that black people are always late? Is that what you are saying @Liberty or Death ?

2020-12-28 17:02:20 UTC  

Not the leninism version that the USSR adopted.

2020-12-28 17:03:47 UTC  

No, I did not assert black people are always late. That is one of the tenants taught in African American studies and CRT courses, and the founder of BLM said it.

2020-12-28 17:04:01 UTC  

People conflate marxism with leninism and stalinism/maoism which are very different.

2020-12-28 17:04:15 UTC  

Personally, I think any assertion of one life mattering over another based on rasceis in itself racist

2020-12-28 17:04:25 UTC  

not really

2020-12-28 17:04:27 UTC  

That isn't the idea of BLM.

2020-12-28 17:05:08 UTC  

Indeed it is, stated by their leaders many times.

2020-12-28 17:05:20 UTC  

... no?

2020-12-28 17:05:32 UTC  

Lives Matter. Putting a color of skin in front of that statement is racist

2020-12-28 17:05:40 UTC  

um...yes Maw

2020-12-28 17:05:49 UTC  

out of their own mouths.

2020-12-28 17:06:32 UTC  

Well, have a good day. Keep up the good work

2020-12-28 17:06:35 UTC  

@Liberty or Death, you just advanced to level 7!

2020-12-28 17:06:42 UTC  

No..? Like, I'm sure you have empathy enough to realize that BLM as an idea is to suggest that black people's lives matter **TOO**, as in they've mattered less historically for a very long time. They're not suggesting that "black lives matter, but not other lives matter" that's silly.

2020-12-28 17:07:53 UTC  

Just like saying "women's lives matter" isn't saying they're somehow more important than men.

2020-12-28 17:08:10 UTC  

Or being prideful in being gay is somehow saying gay people matter more than heterosexual people.

2020-12-28 17:08:19 UTC  

That's... kind of silly.

2020-12-28 17:09:08 UTC  

I personally think being prideful in being gay is sort of being vain, but I don't think it's actively malicious.

2020-12-28 17:09:29 UTC  

@Liberty or Death please explain to me what you mean by this:
"...believe that being on time is a form of white supremecy.."

2020-12-28 17:09:54 UTC  

Its seems to this dumb non lawyer that you are implying white people are on time and black people are late

2020-12-28 17:09:59 UTC  

That is what some anti-racist people have said, actually.

2020-12-28 17:10:05 UTC  

That's a quote, not opinion.

2020-12-28 17:11:06 UTC  

"Black folks time." Yes, I know many comedians use it.

But, as with most things intent matters. A comedian intends it as a joke. I am trying to ascertain @Liberty or Death intent in using it

2020-12-28 17:13:06 UTC  

Is what he's referring to.

2020-12-28 17:14:11 UTC  

Well, again... I was asking him - as I am not entirely sure that is what he was referring to

2020-12-28 17:14:19 UTC  

but now he can claim it