What are the arguments against voter id?

It sounds like a smart thing to have

It does

But there are fights all over the US claiming that some people don't have ids

And that voter id laws are about disenfranchising minorities

the claim is poor people don't have id and your surpressing their right to vote by requiring it

ridiculous

Driver's Licenses are valid forms of ID in darn near any other capacity

The argument is separate from the implications

State IDs also count to a degree

Not to mention Military IDs

If we can't agree on that, we aren't doing anything like blockchain

I don't see how the implications have any grounds to stand on. Especially with the multiple forms of valid State/Federal IDs that you get eventually

ah i missed your earlier comments yes you are correct

@DeathRhodes666 there is no point arguing with me about it lol, you preaching to the choir

you would need i.d you'd get your key and every vote would be accounted for you would be able to confirm it yourself

@realz fair haha. Guess I need to do some internet browsing to try and find any logical grounds for not having voter ID

There are some good ancillary arguments of general voter suppression

I think that a moderate democrat could be convinced to change their focus from banning voter ID requirements, to requiring the government to ensure free ID enfranchisement

im not from the u.s but we have cheap i.d you can get from any police station in australia that serves no other purpose other than as identification for those that don't drive

Getting an ID in NYC took me an entire afternoon(12-5pm) and something like 60 bucks

That is insane

Yeah that's a bit ridiculous. Bureaucracy at its finest haha.

FL was the best experience with ID

Felt like 5 minutes and the fee was miniscule

PA was midling

I had to wait a while

the only problem is you need a home address, birth certificate and a Tax file number (social security number?) so that would be just as difficult to aqquire for some

Can't recall the fee but it wasn't insane

PA is a little annoying (current resident). Not on New York levels though

you could find an easy work around...if they wanted a solution to the problem

PA raise your hand 👋

@TacitusKilgore yea right now everyone is arguing about that issue in bad faith

@TacitusKilgore they absolutely could. I wouldn't imagine it to be very hard to lay out some general rules that aply to everyone

But I think headway could be made if they worked together

But there is no real incentive to right now

It's perfect issue for both sides

no both parties think they benefit

Point being, blockchain or whatever doesn't stand a chance currently

nah, technological changes take massive effort to implement to governmental procedures

So I am just gonna throw out the fact that democracies are designed to last 150 years and we are going on how many on this one? I can’t help but feel this is a test of the fabric of our democratic method and is perhaps the most “tested” our democracy has been. <In my opinion >