@Doc yeah thats politics in general. Vague

@♤amanda Modern politics. It was much more specific before the dawn of focus group politics.

Ideologically oriented back then.

@Doc while the terms are vague, it's still extremely ideologically. The groupthink is huge.

well, groupthink is not ideology.

fair

The Mackrell is master of groupthink. It does not uphold ideologies.

well...probably not... 😄

fishism at most.

i mean it in the sense of if you step out side of either side's ideology you are almost ostracized. I would call my self a centrist (filthy I know) and because I disagree with the left they will label me as part of the right. and if I were to disagree with the far right, I would get labeled a commie. if i don't align I'm cast out.

I would say that is tribalism, no other ideology.

okay fair fair

@TheParamedicGamer i call that a good place to be

If you dissect the political stance of right and left alike, you find very little substance.

Most of their political identities are anti-defined. They see themselves in light of what they are not.

I appreciate maricopa attempt at transparency, but I am not sure that a person reviewing the feed could tell if a signature matched

If nothing else it provides a feeling of control and transparency.

so been Looking at MI and the difference between biden and trump is 2.7%. anyone know if that is outside their recount threshold?

I was just looking at that actually.

https://www.motherjones.com/2020-elections/2020/11/key-states-could-be-headed-toward-recounts-here-are-the-rules/

No hard rule, looks like he can request it but has to pay for it.

glad I'm not the only one

But there are some important deadlines for a request so we'll probably see a slew of requests today.

interesting

makes sense. I'll give that a read

Expected

what is the biggest impact of recounts in american history?

" The mean swing between the top two candidates in the 27 recounts was 282 votes, with a median of 219. The biggest swing came in Florida’s 2000 presidential election recount, when Al Gore cut 1,247 votes off George W. Bush’s lead, ultimately not enough to flip the state to his column."

that was 2016

"the average swing was 0.2 percentage points"

Yea the better strategy I think is to challenge the extended deadlines and try to nullify the votes that came in after election day (or even after election hours closed)

any idea how many votes that is?

Its not over yet. PA had 3 days NC had 9, etc.

I have a case of Carbernet riding on lawfare drawing out past 15th of january. 😛

Not in malice!

Nullifying votes people cast in good faith on reasonably accepted authority sounds like exactly what this country needs.

Yea not a good look. American's would not be happy with the prospect of possibly invalidating legitimate votes and for good reason. But if you are Trump, it is the better strategy given that these late-coming votes seem to be breaking strongly for Biden.

fair point.

also lets talk about how long it is taking NV so long. Bloomberg says they have counted 82-90% of the votes, but Google is showing only 75% reporting since late last night. why does i seem like they are delaying?

Because those 6 votes are the difference. Trump is taking Pennsylvania, Georgia and N. Carolina. It will be a tremendous comeback victory. A victory like the world has never seen. No one has ever had a victory like his victory.

I think those incoming votes should be compared to the persons previous voting habits. When I have looked into voting fraud before I have found that the ballots that tend to lead to one candidate i.e. Biden are not consistent with all the other candidates i.e. you will see less informed decisions made on other parts of the ballot. I also feel that if a ballot is not completely filled out it should not count it's not hard to just bubble in the rest.