Message from @mtpockets59

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2020-11-18 01:39:54 UTC  

Wayne County board of canvassers just refused to certify their own vote totals

2020-11-18 01:40:13 UTC  

That's Detroit folks

2020-11-18 01:49:12 UTC  

Refusing to certify. Therefore fraud.

2020-11-18 01:49:45 UTC  

Watched the Az hearing yesterday, going to be interesting Friday.

2020-11-18 01:49:56 UTC  

They've seen enough voting irregularities in their own house they won't certify

2020-11-18 01:50:33 UTC  

Hey @mtpockets59 what did your friend in Houston say about Dallas Jones?

2020-11-18 01:50:39 UTC  

Doesn't prove fraud, but it does prove the measures to prevent fraud failed

2020-11-18 01:50:56 UTC  

Lol

2020-11-18 01:51:03 UTC  

Haven't heard yet. Still waiting

2020-11-18 01:51:22 UTC  

Okie doke :(

2020-11-18 01:54:48 UTC  

Zuluzeit just texted my friend again. Hopefully they are home from work

2020-11-18 01:55:22 UTC  

I'm patient. Just want to hear local scuttlebutt.

2020-11-18 01:56:36 UTC  

I was wondering if he was one of 3 unnamed people from September. Didn't recall seeing date on article. Did you ?

2020-11-18 02:00:31 UTC  

The Dallas Jones one was 11/15. The 134 count one was September but it was just one guy, I recall...but not Dallas Jones for sure.

2020-11-18 02:00:52 UTC  

09/28, I'm pretty sure.

2020-11-18 02:02:36 UTC  

Confusing haha i thought it was a commissioner and 3 unnamed. 2 much sometimes to keep track.

2020-11-18 02:34:14 UTC  

Trump firing everybody,,,,who is not saying voter fraud

2020-11-18 03:02:31 UTC  

who did he fire today

2020-11-18 03:05:03 UTC  

I just heard Wayne County certified their votes. Earlier in this thread it was said they refused to. Any clarification on this?

2020-11-18 03:16:02 UTC  

As far as I know from people that live there they are split down party lines and will have to go to the state board.

2020-11-18 03:23:13 UTC  

Zuluzeit heard back and she said no news. She is a liberal and she said it was "Fabricated claim".

2020-11-18 03:27:52 UTC  

At first they refused to certify, then they reversed

2020-11-18 03:29:11 UTC  

As of close of business today they still refused to certify.

2020-11-18 03:29:55 UTC  

Looks like they're working late tonight

2020-11-18 03:34:55 UTC  

There’s a stipulation that if a full audit is not conducted by the Secretary of State the certification is void.

2020-11-18 03:59:06 UTC  

@mtpockets59 Thanks for checking. Why are you talking to a liberal? You might end up indoctrinated.

2020-11-18 04:01:07 UTC  

Zuluzeit heard back again and she is changing her story. She said it was on the news for a couple of days. So... indoctrination that would be impossible. She is good looking hahaha

2020-11-18 06:03:01 UTC  

Yup they’ve been shared already

2020-11-18 06:03:48 UTC  

Both?

2020-11-18 06:07:23 UTC  
2020-11-18 06:07:41 UTC  

Yup

2020-11-18 06:08:03 UTC  

Okay cool. I'll remove mine then! Appreciated

2020-11-18 06:08:09 UTC  

Been really behind.

2020-11-18 12:51:45 UTC  

So... Wayne County canvassers concerned about integrity were harassed by their compatriots to certify the vote on the grounds that the poll books never match... Seems reasonable

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/nov/17/wayne-county-michigan-reverses-course-certifies-el/

2020-11-18 13:17:50 UTC  

> So... Wayne County canvassers concerned about integrity were harassed by their compatriots to certify the vote on the grounds that the poll books never match... Seems reasonable
>
> https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/nov/17/wayne-county-michigan-reverses-course-certifies-el/
@stevesirag I would investigate that because that’s exactly what they were trying to prevent from happening. I honestly am starting to believe there is a larger conspiracy a foot.

2020-11-18 14:24:41 UTC  

I believe a low level of fraud has always been endemic to the system, but this year it has been cranked up to 11 with the Trump=Hitler rhetoric and the moratoria on standard fraud checks such as signature matching. Interested in the larger conspiracy claims as well, but so far skeptical, still to be proven.

The more philosophical question: how much fraud + failed checks and balances has to be proven before we doubt we know who won?

2020-11-18 14:26:29 UTC  

The problem with moratoria on fraud detection/prevention laws is that the line for that question is lowered considerably. IE: if we have no signature matching, and we uncover a few dozen examples of vote stuffing, we can be confident there is more, possibly a lot more. If there is assiduous signature matching, we can be confident that most fraud was caught.

2020-11-18 14:28:42 UTC  

With the Detroit poll book thing, I heard a report that 70% of the poll books don't add up. Is that normal?? And if so, what's the point of poll books or canvassing boards if we just say that looks ok to me?