Message from @liftandstudy

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2020-11-23 01:17:53 UTC  

@nachik Are you sure that Phiily boarding up the windows video was to block out observers? I thought that was disproven in court. There were still representatives of both campaigns in the room. Those were non-campaign onlookers that were being disruptive, if I recall. It's been a while, so I may be misremembering.

2020-11-23 01:18:31 UTC  

@linuxace have you looked at the evidence?

2020-11-23 01:18:35 UTC  

@AdamS but yeah you can't be sure of that statement just as those who "know" that there was fraud can't be sure of that either

2020-11-23 01:18:35 UTC  

@realz, you just advanced to level 10!

2020-11-23 01:19:03 UTC  

I said widespread

2020-11-23 01:19:03 UTC  

@AdamS, you just advanced to level 1!

2020-11-23 01:19:06 UTC  

There is a LOT of "evidence", and more coming every day

2020-11-23 01:19:08 UTC  

As much of it as I can with the time I have. There is something strange going on. Doesn't mean it's fraud but it deserves a good look over.

2020-11-23 01:19:11 UTC  

iirc it wasn't Philly boarding up, it was Maricopa

2020-11-23 01:19:22 UTC  

@liftandstudy yep but poll watchers being excluded is already losing in State courts, maybe it will go to SCOTUS, statistical anomalies are weak evidence (once you allow the infrastructure you cannot prove it strongly enough), affidavits will be mostly dismissed (typically the court will side with local authority vs individuals, and witness accounts with no possible material evidence are limited)

2020-11-23 01:19:22 UTC  

Have you checked every piece of evidence?

2020-11-23 01:19:33 UTC  

@linuxace I totally agree with you, everything should be looked at.

2020-11-23 01:19:33 UTC  

I'm not sold either way other than something is strange and needs and explanation.

2020-11-23 01:19:38 UTC  

Boarding up windows would be silly in Philly since the watchers complained that while let in, they had to observe from forever away

2020-11-23 01:19:41 UTC  

I believe the dominion systems integrity should be satisfied now?

Secretary of State Republican Brad Raffensperger, who had ordered a certified testing laboratory to conduct an audit of a random sample of Georgia's machines, said that the probe was both complete and successful in ensuring that the machines hadn't been manipulated.

“We have partnered with the Department of Homeland Security, the Georgia Cyber Center, Georgia Tech security experts, and wide range of other election security experts around the state and country”.

An audit was conducted before and after the election of the machines, software & Firmware. (Reports attached).

All the votes have been re-counted by hand and have tallied up (irregularities of 2500 votes because 1 USB device was not uploaded). If all the votes tally up and the audit is complete then how can we challenge the integrity of the system?

I’m not by any means saying the system cannot be hacked, but if the system has been forensically examined, audited and the ballots recounted by hand then no doubt should remain.

Thank you. Great show!
Adam S. London England.

https://www.eac.gov/voting-equipment/democracy-suite-55-c

https://www.eac.gov/sites/default/files/voting_system/files/Dominion%20Voting%20Systems%20%20D-Suite%205.5-C%20Test%20Report-Rev.%2001.pdf

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election

2020-11-23 01:20:17 UTC  

All the research and evidence is available, it just depends what people want to see and believe.

2020-11-23 01:20:24 UTC  

How many outstanding suits does the President have running? 3? 4?

2020-11-23 01:20:45 UTC  

I don't believe anything either way, definitively

2020-11-23 01:20:48 UTC  

he would say that - he procured the machines himself

2020-11-23 01:20:51 UTC  

@linuxace I think that was one of the reasons they built in months to complete the transition, A month and a half between election and EC.

2020-11-23 01:21:03 UTC  

@nachik yes but again, my point was that under any other circumstances just sending poll watchers away would be plenty of evidence. I was then replying to your comment about waiting until after the election took place to complain about rules set way in advance.

2020-11-23 01:21:19 UTC  

The other reason was that horses were only so fast....

2020-11-23 01:21:20 UTC  

I just know your statement that "no widespread fraud has occurred" is impossible for you to _know_

2020-11-23 01:21:37 UTC  

@nachik for example, the talk about dominion executives and whatnot. They should have brought that stuff up pre-election.

2020-11-23 01:22:20 UTC  

All the votes are hand counted and add up, the machines have been forensically checked by a republican...what’s remains the issue?

2020-11-23 01:22:47 UTC  

hope I'm wrong but no State court will invalidate large amounts of votes on that argument alone - the other things are more systemic and widespread

2020-11-23 01:23:03 UTC  

there are like 100 other allegations

2020-11-23 01:23:37 UTC  

@nachik if the law requires poll watchers to be able to observe and examine the ballots, yet they were not allowed to do that, it makes sense that they should be invalidated.

2020-11-23 01:23:50 UTC  

there are republicans on the taking, Powell is right about that. GA procurement of Dominion machines involves Republicans. This makes the case hard. There should be no electronic voting anywhere.

2020-11-23 01:24:01 UTC  

@nachik I agree the courts might be reluctant because they are scared, but legally it makes sense.

2020-11-23 01:24:14 UTC  

it does but so far, it hasn't happened

2020-11-23 01:24:21 UTC  

I don't trust the courts so much

2020-11-23 01:24:34 UTC  

3 cases in court? After 49 being rejected? The kraken no longer in play with no evidence and no case logged in court regarding Dominion, what is one to believe?

2020-11-23 01:25:01 UTC  

not all the allegations are in court, and not all of them have to do with Dominion

2020-11-23 01:25:09 UTC  

it doesn't matter what one is to _believe_

2020-11-23 01:25:12 UTC  

How do you reply so that it is linked to the message you are responding to?^

2020-11-23 01:25:12 UTC  

you made a statement of fact

2020-11-23 01:25:28 UTC  

Most of the cases have been thrown out based on standing, not on the metrit of the evidence.

2020-11-23 01:25:29 UTC  

had you tempered it with "no sane person would believe..." it would be better

2020-11-23 01:26:07 UTC  

signatures.

2020-11-23 01:26:10 UTC  

Period