Again, hard to say. I worked for the Federal government for years including many three letter agencies. So many of the decisions made are counterintuitive. It may be she wants credit all to herself and is not sharing the evidence out of self interest. More likely the evidence is lacking but that doesn't mean there aren't other explanations that prove to be true in the end.

I disagree, at least in terms of the election, damage to the country will come from another source, one in which none of the politicians will be wiling to deal with until it's too late

My position is that the greatest damage will come from loss of faith in our governing institutions.

You don’t understand democracy. Shouting victory from the rooftops is what dictators do. I don’t have sympathy for Donald trump who cannot differentiate between fact and fiction. When preaching. Democracy, fair elections and rights around the world then maybe clean up house first before preaching. And if the preaching has to continue then maybe handle it better

I agree BTW. The processes are being followed. Too many people are being distracted by the rhetoric.

I meant damage is done abroad. Actually damage is done at home too, most trunk supporters will never believe the election system is fair.

So?

You're right. I do have a much better handle on a Constitution Republic than I do a pure democracy .

I seem to recall we had a 3 year investigation because Clinton supporters didn't believe 2016 was fair

Exactly, but it’s pure democracy that America preaches when undertaking Endless wars. What happens in America has an impact globally.

@meglide We have hordes of people who will go to their graves insisting this was rigged, predicated almost entirely upon the propagation of that notion by people who are playing on the credulity of people who are also ignorant of the election control mechanisms that are in place. It's a dangerous combination. Moreover, that's damage.

That has just as much to do with the Democratic party as it does with Trump. There has been a push to use certain tactics by both parties to delegitimatize the processes for political victories. It has been a process that has been going on for 20+ years.

@linuxace, you just advanced to level 8!

I agree. Mitch McConnell had blocked any attempt to make reforms to voting machines.

The president has plenty of tools to ferret out election rigging schemes of the amplitude that are being posited. He even invented one for specifically that. For someone who was so vocal about it for so long, it seems like this is a suspiciously convenient time to act on it.

I'm happy to let Britain fight their own wars from now on. Have fun dealing with freedom of navigation and not having countries like Iran choke your economy over disagreements. I've seen way too many of my buddies die protecting your country's interests as the world's international police and am happy to have your country sacrifice your own sons for your economic interests abroad.

He made the same claims in 2016. Had 4 years to do something about it, did nothing.

Just a thought... What if Pence/Kobach did find proof of fraud in with their commission - in keeping with what Ramsland found. What if they convinced Trump to not pursue exposing the 2016 election in order to make people think he doesn't know about the fraud? They convince him to make a show of creating the CISP and promoting Chris Krebs from DHS to run it. It's a government agency with a bureaucrat at the helm - how effect could it be? But... Chris Krebs is actually competent (which by all accounts he actually is). He proceeds to actually clean up the election. He works with states to plug up their systems, gets them to increase the robustness. Trump - thinking that they know how to prove fraud - starts claiming that the Dems are going to try to steal the election knowing that they will be able to prove it easily with what they learned. The only problem is, this really is the most secure election in history.

@AdamS lol ikr. Ridiculous.

You have no idea what you are talking about. We have been fight America’s endless wars! Do some research, you have no idea what you are talking about. And Iran did not bankrupt our economy the American property crash did. Don’t just watch fox!

@TaLoN132 hahahaha that would be the best true story ever

This Barnes guy makes a a compelling case for trump to win Georgia or at lest gain a advantage in Georgia https://youtu.be/YYJUjkpjZbo

Why else would they be focusing on Powell and Ramsland? The "proof" they showed was for 2016, everything from 2020 was circumstantial.

@TaLoN132, you just advanced to level 14!

However I don’t see signature matching being a big deal

How many people match signature regularly

That would be the biggest backfire you could script @TaLoN132

@linuxace if you haven’t realised. America’s war on terror has bankrupted America. The appetite for war is beyond me: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Bosnia, Chechnya, war war war. We in Britain, unfortunately followed, so once again do some research. We in Britain are tired of supporting America in endless wars...I’m sure you are ready for Iran.

@AdamS Interesting when the brit is tired of the american empireism. Then it has gone far. 😄

[said with massive anglophilic tendencies!]

I went onto Georgia's election website. They really did a good job in their mail-in ballot request process. You could do it online - if you upload a picture of your ID, via mail-in request, in person, or even fax. Once they verified the request, the mailed out the ballot. When they received the ballot, GA compared it to the request signatures. Since those signatures were recent, voters didn't have a problem with signatures having changed. If they didn't match, voters were notified and allowed to cure them. In the end, 2000 mail-in ballots were rejected, which was in line with previous elections (according to GA).

Hm

Lol I too am somewhat of an anglophile but America seems to have daddy issues.

Lol we have our own issues. But the U.K. relationship transcends elected officials.

The U.K. US relationship *

That seems to have hit somewhat of a dry spell. Bejing is acting as if the commonwealth and Washington are no longer allies.

As I am in norway, I pray to the Gods for a free and strong London.

Its the best chance I have for a calm retirement.

😄

Heir heir

@AdamS Although I am not sure we can be blamed for Chechnya... and I think our motives were mostly good in Bosnia and Syria. I personally was reluctant about us going war in Afghanistan in retaliation for 9/11 and I did not support the Iraq war, because I saw no link to 9/11 and didn't believe the had WMD's - 50 years from now, historians will lament how a cowardly, criminal act perpetrated by dozens of individuals (by borrowing the plot of a Tom Clancy novel) for a couple hundred thousands dollars and 19 lives, resulted in the world's largest super power to spend trillions of dollars, tens of thousands of American lives, countless Afghan and Iraqi lives - all precipitated by that single heinous act. Not to mention that everything we did ultimately did way more to radicalize people against us and I doubt we are any safer in the end. I am hopeful we are learning from our mistakes...