Message from @realz

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2020-11-24 03:24:42 UTC  

I can't take this seriously while watching starcraft guys walking around

2020-11-24 03:25:43 UTC  

he must have put a lot of work into this

2020-11-24 03:25:59 UTC  

but his method of explaining things can't possibly be understood by the people linking this around

2020-11-24 03:26:07 UTC  

I barely understand (I still don't think I do)

2020-11-24 03:26:30 UTC  

Fraction magic indeed.

2020-11-24 03:26:46 UTC  

I am trying to figure out how one could visualize this on a graph

2020-11-24 03:26:52 UTC  

not a starcraft graph

2020-11-24 03:26:55 UTC  

lol

2020-11-24 03:28:12 UTC  

wtf is this starcraft metaphor

2020-11-24 03:28:32 UTC  

imagine Powell summons this guy to court

2020-11-24 03:28:38 UTC  

and he whips out a starcraft game

2020-11-24 03:28:44 UTC  

and tries to explain this to a judge

2020-11-24 03:28:47 UTC  

HAHAHA

2020-11-24 03:29:45 UTC  

I used to spend a lot of time debunking PvsNP "proofs"

2020-11-24 03:30:05 UTC  

this is a hard problem in computer science (probably the most important problem in CS and all of math)

2020-11-24 03:30:18 UTC  

but it is very approachable to amateurs and it is surprising that it is difficult to solve

2020-11-24 03:30:56 UTC  

many people take a crack at it, and it is a trope in the CS community; people look down on those who attempt to solve this sort of problem, especially if they are amateurs (not professionals in CS)

2020-11-24 03:30:56 UTC  

@DrSammyD It just might be human error. When they manually enter values into the NEP system, they sometimes attribute them to the wrong precincts. In order to mask the errors, they use a debit/credit approach to move the values. Logically, you might think they would send a negative entry on one side and the positive on the other. In this case, they are doing a wholesale replacement of the values.

2020-11-24 03:31:22 UTC  

the reason being that it is very difficult to read through the proofs and disprove them (takes a lot of time) and they never end

2020-11-24 03:31:35 UTC  

sort of like Perpetual Motion machines for physicists

2020-11-24 03:31:49 UTC  

anyway, there is a page on the internet that collects such "proofs" for archival purposes

2020-11-24 03:32:14 UTC  

and in order to learn the underlying difficulty of the problem, I spent a lot of time humoring such proofs and taking the time to disprove them

2020-11-24 03:32:23 UTC  

fun days

2020-11-24 03:32:29 UTC  

That would make sense if it wasn't for like sets of 5 different precincts at a time, all with varying total values but not ratios.

2020-11-24 03:32:31 UTC  

anyway, I've never seen one that involves stacraft

2020-11-24 03:33:51 UTC  

he's laughing at his own simulation!

2020-11-24 03:34:27 UTC  

I still don't understand this scheme

2020-11-24 03:34:40 UTC  

OK so it knows how many votes it needs in the "virtual precincts"

2020-11-24 03:34:49 UTC  

and it hijacks some precincts during a period of time

2020-11-24 03:35:05 UTC  

ohh I get it now

2020-11-24 03:35:17 UTC  

those precincts converge to the virtual ratio

2020-11-24 03:35:23 UTC  

Yep

2020-11-24 03:35:27 UTC  

and hold there until it snaps to another precinct

2020-11-24 03:35:37 UTC  

OK, what was missing is the "converge" part

2020-11-24 03:35:49 UTC  

ok now I can think of how to visualize this

2020-11-24 03:36:00 UTC  

what if

2020-11-24 03:36:10 UTC  

we visualized a 2d chart showing the ratios of every precinct

2020-11-24 03:36:31 UTC  

over time

2020-11-24 03:36:41 UTC  

each precinct gets a curve

2020-11-24 03:37:03 UTC  

yea I think I can work with this

2020-11-24 03:42:09 UTC  

Yeah, I think that's a good visualization.