Message from @Dan_Sundin

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2020-11-24 16:41:01 UTC  

The idea that it is something related to election fraud is bad faith argument

2020-11-24 16:41:17 UTC  

There are only two crimes: Crimes of Force and Crimes of Fraud. What the MSM has done is commit a crime of fraud which targeted the electorate.

2020-11-24 16:41:46 UTC  

It is not a crime of force it is a crime of fraud.

2020-11-24 16:41:59 UTC  

Is manipulation a crime of fraud?

2020-11-24 16:42:07 UTC  

yes

2020-11-24 16:42:13 UTC  

It is when it is done through the telling of lies.

2020-11-24 16:42:22 UTC  

The deliberate telling of lies.

2020-11-24 16:42:25 UTC  

cool. That makes all commericals criminal activity.

2020-11-24 16:42:28 UTC  

I like that

2020-11-24 16:43:11 UTC  

And product placement - so Kardiashians go away too.

2020-11-24 16:43:15 UTC  

A better world!

2020-11-24 16:43:32 UTC  

The founder envisioned the newspapers to be a force of getting information out to an educated citizen, if he couldn’t read, the papers were read by a reader in the town square or tavern...

2020-11-24 16:43:48 UTC  

This is bullshit and against the constitution

2020-11-24 16:44:02 UTC  

ABC stated Trump was briefed about Covid in Nov 2019. That was a lie. The Director of MEdical Intelligence stated publically that no such product existed from which Trump could have been briefed. ABC stayed quiet, never retracted it, and then made further reports which depended on that lie in order to defraud the public of the truth and prejudice them against Trump.

2020-11-24 16:44:29 UTC  

You don't respect FoS and FoP it seems clear

2020-11-24 16:44:30 UTC  

@realz well, if manipulation is fraud, then you have 30 % of your popultion in work camps. 😄

2020-11-24 16:44:43 UTC  

Except advertisements are not lying to you about their product, most of the time they believe in their own product and think your life would be better with their product.

2020-11-24 16:45:00 UTC  

Lying press is _protected_

2020-11-24 16:45:02 UTC  

@Jorgen Johnson Do you have much experience with commercial psychology?

2020-11-24 16:45:16 UTC  

Today that process has all changed to be spun and twisted. The mainstream media has become a political player, a media outlet aligned with this party or that.

2020-11-24 16:45:32 UTC  

No, @realz , it is not BS. It is a fact. ALL crimes are either crimes of force or fraud. Without an act of force (coercion, battery, etc) or an act of fraud (lying) no harm can occur that is prosecutable for remedy.

2020-11-24 16:45:38 UTC  

You sound like a caricature of Stalin "I support free speech, but only if it is _true_"

2020-11-24 16:45:52 UTC  

Name the statute

2020-11-24 16:45:56 UTC  

You say crime

2020-11-24 16:45:58 UTC  

Name

2020-11-24 16:45:59 UTC  

The

2020-11-24 16:46:03 UTC  

Statute

2020-11-24 16:46:13 UTC  

ALL statutes are based on these principles./

2020-11-24 16:46:18 UTC  

@Whithers You know that any non-autist lies 20-50 times pr day`?

2020-11-24 16:47:07 UTC  

You said crime. I want to know where in the law this crime is.

2020-11-24 16:47:13 UTC  

Nope. That is not correct or I am autistic. Which I am not. I am partially anhedonic.

2020-11-24 16:47:15 UTC  

Don't weasel out of this

2020-11-24 16:47:37 UTC  

@Whithers I did not say conscious lies. The most common lies are those we tell our selves.

2020-11-24 16:47:44 UTC  

All laws. Read ALL laws.

2020-11-24 16:48:00 UTC  

Like I said bullshit

2020-11-24 16:48:19 UTC  

And let me guess the assessors of this are athiest social sciences that include every prayer as an act of self deception.

2020-11-24 16:48:22 UTC  

You are making me believe more and more that you are not arguing in good faith

2020-11-24 16:48:48 UTC  

@Whithers Nope.

2020-11-24 16:49:15 UTC  

@realz you are deliberately pretending to obtuseness. You know I am correct or you lack acumen.

2020-11-24 16:49:37 UTC  

Ah ok so you think I'm not arguing in good faith either