Not so sure about that... I am pretty sure that Sec of State Kerry was more than capable of carrying that water. Biden just had the relationship with Ukrainian Prez Poroshenko.

I’m just going off what shokins deputy said about shokin leaving cases dormant including burisma. Also the Ukrainian people themselves were rioting in the streets to have shokin remove for not investigating crimes by Russian soldiers

BTW - did you watch that Borat imitation video that Giuliani's Russian friend put out last week? It was fascinating.

@TaLoN132 probably I thought Biden was put in charge of Ukraine, what I meant by leverage is that the US were the only entity out the people who wanted shokin out ( imf, Ukrainian people ) with leverage

No I’ll have to look it up

Biden could have acted out side of public view; iron triangles do not ussually advertise and family persoanl releationships are often aovided to some degree. I am not saying he is guilty, just pointing out it would be hard to prove.

They play recordings between Biden and Poroshenko thinking they are damning and somehow implicate him in a scheme that purportedly embezzled $13B from the Ukraine funneling billions to the Biden family. The recordings made Biden sound like an effective diplomat. There's a hilarious part where Rudy's friend misunderstands an idiom about what happens when a dog chasing a car actually catches one. Biden says Trump is the dog and the Presidency is the car. The Russian guy focuses on the fact that Biden called Trump a dog.

I am not familiar with iron triangles - i think something got lost in translation.

Is that a colloquialism from your parts?

Lol, oh yeah I remember that recording. It was announced as some nail in the coffin by some right wing vloggers

I'd swear Rudy got the idea for it after watching himself on Borat...

interesting Talon, you all have a good night. I am not sure...Trump could be a boxer perhaps..:) It is the offcial and unoffcial relation between indivisuals/groups within goverment

Goodnight... Where is home, if you don't mind my asking?

Here in the States atm PA. I know that term may seem odd; it is a way of considering things from a more phcological level I guess.

Oh... Are you referring to the sound made when a boxing round is started and ends? Meaning that not all fighting occurs during the official fighting time.

that could work:0 I was making a joke saying Trump was a boxer cause he alredy got smacked by the presidency.

I just googled Iron Triangle... Thank, I like learning new things.

I did as well, thank you.

Michael Flynn just got pardoned.... No wonder Sidney Powell couldn't officially be on his legal team.

oh...

Talk about Quid Pro Quo - free legal work for a pardon for your client.

@Maw You been following along today?

Only slightly.

It's a shame that there's so little fodder for Robert's show.

I wouldn't worry, Faith and Rob have contingency plans.

I forgot the sarcasm emoji...

@Maw I had an election legal question that might be interesting. A PA State Judge issued a ruling that Blocks any further Certification of the Presidential Election. The PA AG said that it was too late because Gov Wolf already certified the slate of Electors, but later in the article was quoted as saying that he would be filing an Appeal to the PA SC immediately. Since they said it wouldn't have an impact, why bother appealing? Why not just let it innocuously stand? Could a reversal in the PA SC allow it to be appealed to SCOTUS? Why give it any more life?

An AG Opinion does not carry the same weight as a Court Ruling.

The impact is that the election results would be unable to be certified.

Of course if you want to take the appropriate PR move, you'd want to certify prior to your electors voting.

Good question of course.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-blocks-further-certification-of-pa-election-results/ar-BB1bmgvY

Election results do not equate to electors, for the most part.

"This order does not impact yesterday’s appointment of electors," Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro said on Twitter Wednesday. "We will be filing an appeal with the Pennsylvania Supreme Court momentarily."

You've heard of faithless electors I presume.

I see... But either way, electors are not compelled to follow the popular vote.

Not compelled to follow their pledges, rather.

You do have a good question though, I'll toss it to Faith and if Rob has time, he might cover it.

I'm sure with Rudy's production and Flynn's (with the Sidney Powell possible quid pro quo angle), it's less interesting.

despite the possibility of electors being faithless, it doesn't look like there'd be enough to bring Biden below 306 and anyone house rep who is a democrat but whose district went for Trump would all the same likely choose to go against their districts wishes.

@Adam135, you just advanced to level 7!