Message from @Zuluzeit

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2020-11-27 04:21:51 UTC  

Hahaha

2020-11-27 04:22:03 UTC  

@james j it is where a judge says "I will make the judgement that results in the best '_moral_' outcome instead of making a judgement on what the constitution or law says"

2020-11-27 04:22:31 UTC  

(then they "interpret" the constitution and law around that)

2020-11-27 04:22:54 UTC  

it is basically an explicit injection of politics into the legal system

2020-11-27 04:23:11 UTC  

@Doc to be clear, that wasn't my issue though. It was much more silly than that.

2020-11-27 04:24:05 UTC  

@Zuluzeit No such thing. Every topic worth honestly approaching another human with always touches on existence, if you peal it.

2020-11-27 04:24:16 UTC  

Can’t people just using tactics to say this is or is not constitutional with their own interpretations @realz I think having a dogmatic constitution could be just as much of a problem

2020-11-27 04:24:42 UTC  

@Doc rather, less directly threatening.

2020-11-27 04:24:51 UTC  

@Zuluzeit Indeed.

2020-11-27 04:25:03 UTC  

That is what psychological defenses are for.

2020-11-27 04:25:22 UTC  

Existence in itself is an extremely uncomfortable topic.

2020-11-27 04:27:30 UTC  

Yes, it could be worse than Judicial Activism: Judicial Activism without admitting it. This would just be bad faith judgements. Of course this is possible, and our entire System depends on this not happening in the majority. However, I can't help _secret_ judicial activists who interpret things deliberately toward their goals. What I _can_ do is eliminate those that _tell_ me they are bad faith

2020-11-27 04:27:46 UTC  

@Doc There was something about a professional and compensated person that lent promise to the work. It wouldn't have been the same with doing the exact same thing with any number of friends.

2020-11-27 04:28:17 UTC  

@Zuluzeit A professional has less agenda, yes.

2020-11-27 04:28:24 UTC  

Friends usually have one.

2020-11-27 04:28:50 UTC  

So answers will be more...well...trustworthy in a strange way.

2020-11-27 04:29:12 UTC  

Indeed. That's how it felt.

2020-11-27 04:29:12 UTC  

I think criminal intent and criminal behavior can adapt. If we come across some crimes that the constitution gets in the way of effectively stopping then we have a situation where society can’t adapt to new threats @realz

2020-11-27 04:29:48 UTC  

We can. We can adjust the constitution. Using judicial activism to circumvent this it to circumvent the constitution.

2020-11-27 04:30:12 UTC  

HAL and Eagle Eye...a perfect barringer of political justice. Perhaps the two should select for optimal and legitimate future candidacy.

2020-11-27 04:30:28 UTC  

@Doc Anyway, that was my year of exposure to psychology. Hardly a large sample.

2020-11-27 04:30:41 UTC  

Right but adjusting the constitution would mean not being a dogmatic constitutionalist

2020-11-27 04:30:42 UTC  

Also, no one cares when judges "adapt" when it is for something non-partisan. Judicial Activists gleefully want to do this for partisan issues.

2020-11-27 04:30:56 UTC  

Lol HAL 2024.

2020-11-27 04:30:57 UTC  

Not really; the constitution allows for its adjustment.

2020-11-27 04:31:27 UTC  

it basically requires 2/3 agreement

2020-11-27 04:31:47 UTC  

i.e something has to be bipartisan

2020-11-27 04:32:02 UTC  

Unless the court is unbalanced

2020-11-27 04:32:13 UTC  

Uh no

2020-11-27 04:32:21 UTC  

That's literally not how it works

2020-11-27 04:32:27 UTC  

2/3 of judges or like congress or something

2020-11-27 04:32:30 UTC  

I am talking about amending the constitution, what does that have to do with the court

2020-11-27 04:32:34 UTC  

The court has no impact on it's contents

2020-11-27 04:32:39 UTC  

Oh

2020-11-27 04:32:41 UTC  

@Zuluzeit well, bedtime for me now. You have a nice one!

2020-11-27 04:33:14 UTC  

Nite

2020-11-27 04:33:14 UTC  

@Doc I bid you the same. Sleep well.

2020-11-27 04:37:32 UTC  

as it stands right now, if the SC justices go rogue in full bad faith, there is NO check on the SC

2020-11-27 04:37:33 UTC  

I don’t know what this is yet but I think we need it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/781740475743862784/image0.png

2020-11-27 04:37:42 UTC  

(except packing them or impeaching them?)

2020-11-27 04:37:44 UTC  

All hail section 230