Even Nixon turned over the evidence your view of executive branch abuse is power is Nixonian

Bill Clinton testified himself

Trump was a coward and a federal power serial abuser weak and scared and guilty

Not really. I don't even like Trump. I just like deluded progressive Democrats a lot less. Glad Trump is out of office, sucks that ya'll had to make it a race to the bottom. Our nation will never recover from the abuse of power in the attempt to remove Trump by the Democrats and we all deserve what happens if Democrats decide to be vindictive.

It's fine I get it his supports never cared he covered up the testimony of his guilt it's just funny. Basically Al Capone shooting l the witnesses and saying he didnt do anything.

Electing a guy that said he'd murder a citizen in broad daylight and get away with it because the potus is immune to the law before elected pretty much insured he would be on impeachment at some point especially with all the Russia trump relations during campaign

I'm definitely not a Trump fan. Conservative and Libertarian in my learning but I never liked the guy. That being said, I have a hard time taking you seriously when you trot out that garbage. I read the Mueller report cover to cover. Not even an iota of evidence in there of anything but normal election interference and screwy politics. No convictions other than unrelated procedural crimes that had almost nothing to do with the investigation.

The mueller report did not contain the testimony that Trump was blocking from congress

No potus was like this. Nixon never said I'm not a crook but watch me shoot an American you cant stop me

That's some sadam Hussein crap

Trump is a narcissist, of course he would say something like that. That being said, making stupid comments and committing crimes are two totally different things. Again, if you really feel the way you do, you should be mad that those people working against Trump couldn't bring the goods, or more than likely, that it was never about that anyway. Everyone involved knew they couldn't prove what was being accussed. It was a PR stunt because if they could have actually proved it we would be having a much different conversation right now.

Cause remember, if they did have solid proof, no way in hell would the Senate Republicans vote to acquit him

I personally know Senate Republicans and House Republican and know that many or most despise Trump and would have jumped on that opportunity given sufficient evidence.

Trumps at the minimum a fascist wanna be ofc he wants the power to kill his citizens. Saying he was just being boastful and didnt want to do it was always dishonest. But when Trump sent his lawyer to argue in court the potus should be immune from criminal prosecution for shooting someone that's an attempt to put that hypothetical in a judicial interpretation of the law. So yes he was dead serious.

I mean, there are Trump critics that have things of substance to criticize him for but this just sounds like a boring reddit thread

Maybe he is a fascist personally, but it doesn't really matter because the checks and balances designed into the system kept him check so we really will never know more than accusations and hypotheticals. Democrats on the other hand have stated they are actively working to subvert checks and balances to get power. Right now that is what I am more concerned with.

Are you not on this discord to weigh in on legal cases not just your political views?

bruh, all you've been doing is throwing around political views

It's not my "political view" Trumps lawyer tried to get a judge to make him immune to being prosecuted for murder

I am actually very concerned with legal cases. Been involved with the Innocence Project and criminal justice reform for years including trying to help overturn civil forfeiture and excessive sentencing for drug and nonviolent crimes. I jumped in on your political comments.

It's my political view the judge was right but not the fact the case happened 😂

Anyone can argue anything they want in court until the judge smacks them down. You keep arguing intensions and statements when that really doesn't matter when it comes down it it. If Trump had actually subverted the checks or balances and actually refuses to leave office you and I will probably have something in common. Until then it is hard for me to take you seriously based on your arguments to this point.

Sure anyone can argue what they want. But theres not a very good reason to try and get immunity for murder unless you want to do the thing.

Did he actually do the thing?

@linuxace, you just advanced to level 10!

The judge said no you dont have immunity from murder so no he didnt do the murder

Dang. If I lived life like that, I would be driving myself crazy fighting with my wife and being like, you could have cheated on me. How could you?

You honestly believed Trump, who you claim to be a pathological liar without shame, when he said I could shoot someone and no one would arrest me.

Hes honest about the horrible things he wants to do and when he fought for it in court yeah

What any rational person has learned in the last few years, is that you can never rely on what Trump says and only consider what he actually does for any basis of judgement

The guy will literally say something and do the opposite

Did you think he was lying when he said he would build a wall to keep out mexican rapists?

@linuxace What's your take on the Act 77 case in PA? Do you think that the US SC will take on the case to invalidate the election because the legislature did not amend the PA constitution?

@TaLoN132, you just advanced to level 26!

and so far he's deported less immigrants than Obama 😂

As a Mexican I can personally tell you that me and my hundreds of family members took absolutely no offenese at that statement.

Hes just keeping them in Mexico to be victims of crimes and sending them to central America and not calling it deportation and throwing legal asylum refugees out of the country?

I hope they take it on. Not necessarily because I want Trump to win but because I feel that the legislative controls were subverted. I don't like the fact that there has been an imbalance where courts have gained legislative power that they shouldn't have. I want that addressed no matter how the election turns out.

Hard to say when you get threats to you life for trying to do your job and follow the Constitution and other legitimate laws.

At the very least, he should appoint an election reform committee before he leaves office.

There should no doubt of integrity in any election, other than when the difference of margin is less than 1%