Yes, this was to everyone.

Stop calling each other racist.

@yetiCodes By being a mod.

Jk

Someone from Fulton County testified this morning before the Senate committee that they did not stop voting during election night and that Republican poll watchers were there the whole time. They said that some workers chose to leave at 10:30 and mentioned to some of the poll workers that *they* were leaving, but that they had been asked to stay and election officials never told watchers to leave.

I don’t think a regular ID goes far enough. I think everyone should have a chipped voter card of some kind that is coded with your voter information. Voting should require one of these cards AND when you do your actual vote a finger print linked with your voter card should be required to submit the vote

Voting is the most sacred thing a citizen can do in this country.

It’s so sacred that the GOP consistently try everything they can to suppress votes @thebrodys why don’t we have a voting holiday to ensure people get to vote

@yetiCodes They also addressed the water leak issue... The leak was discovered at 6:07 and fixed in a couple of hours. They said that the owner of State Farm arena was prepared to testify to that fact. At no time were ballots left alone and the chain of custody was not broken.

@thebrodys make the country pay for it and ensure everyone can get their chip voter ids and everyone would be on board

I agree that there should be some sort of voting holiday..called Election Day. I do think people should be given that time to vote

Agree. Government should pay for it

Oh, dang. Gotcha.

@TaLoN132 can guliani get sued for misleading information. And lying

Everyone should get a freedom sausage

You do know there are poor white people in the same situation though?

Shhh...that’s an unpopular opinion

Oops

Poor white folks dont have conservatives going after them specifically though or the Jim Crow effect

@Beth yeah but there are more rich whites in those areas than rich minorities disenfranchising those minorities. Thus racist in effect

No, they have liberals telling them that they have no validity.

Telling who they dont have validity?

No they are just going against the conservatives trying to disenfranchise them. Of course then conservatives in their twisted logic try and turn that into “well that means you have no validity” @thebrodys

Poor people, who are white. Conservatives knocking minorities down and liberals doing the same thing to white people. It’s all dumb

We could employ a number of identification methods to ensure they are available to all people. Those with mobile phones and email addresses could have 2-factor authentication. When they check in, they send a text to the mobile phone number given when the voter registers. Show the text to the worker. Match the codes. Rock on. When they register in person or the first time they vote in person, they could take a picture of the voter and save it to their registration record. Disneyland does this will all of their guests now. When you present your pass at the gate, they take your picture. If you leave the park and come back, they check the picture - no hand stamping any more.

It goes beyond that James it's not just percentage populations

@thebrodys no they are going against conservative policies not the conservative white. That’s just what the conservative politicians say in response

And their base eats it up

Many will say the government is getting involved in my privacy

Okay.... but what I really don’t understand is how there are minorities who are poor, can’t get ID so can’t vote = racist. There is also white people who are poor, can’t get ID, can’t vote = who gives a shit because they are white 🤷🏼‍♀️ like wtf I don’t get it. Racism goes both ways. Poor people of all races. If your saying poor people should have ID free I totally agree..

I'm not a lawyer, but I think I have heard Robert mentioning that they would also have to prove intent. That he knowingly lied in order to mislead. He gives every indication in public that he fully believes what he says, so that might be hard to prove... If I've rememebered correctly on the intent thing, of course.

@TaLoN132 ok. I read that Guliani and Trumps sons might want to get pardons

Pardons are only for Federal crimes.

If you look at the literacy tests from actual Jim Crow before voting rights were passed to wipe then out what was their argument? Its not about suppression we want more voter integrity. It's not about race we want people that can read this impacts white voters that cant read as well. But as we know the reality of the law was not what the claimed to want or what the law did. It was designed to keep black voters that could not read out and let in white voters that could not read by having a test in which there wasnt correct answers bo matter what you pick.

Photo ID they try and pull the same junk it's never changed they just have to hide it better so the courts wont come in and slap them. Then they turn around and say if you claim minorities cant get ID that's racist it's their fault. Its disingenuous.

I just explained that in those areas if you are a minority you are more likely to be poor and rely on public transportation, not being able to take time off work etc. @Beth thus in those areas getting anything bureaucratic done would be harder for you. I actually had experienced this in college when my car broke. Getting anything done took all day. What was once a simple 15 minute drive now took 4 hours. And this was a small to medium sized city @Beth

Bingo 😄

The claims of what the law looks at on the outside and what the contents of the law actually do not have to match and often do not. Jim Crow wasn't about literacy any more than photo ID is about photo ID anymore than the Patriot Act to spy on Americans was about granting them freedom.

It depends on how local election officials implement the laws. In the past, these laws were selectively enforced to keep people of specific demographics from voting. Like poll questions... where a white voter would come up and they would ask them what the day of the week was or something silly like that... and when a black voter came up, they asked them to name all of the representatives in the state. It was selective enforcement that was the issue. I think we just have to have a multi-tiered approach to voter identification that gives more options for ensuring the person voting matches the registration and a process for voters to be able to remedy the situation if they are unfairly prevented from voting.

It’s affects are racist because the “richer white vote” which makes up the majority of the population in that state will have a better chance at being represented. The poorer minority will not. The poorer whites won’t be represented either but white people in general would. Poor people in general get disenfranchised however in those regions more black people tend to be poorer than whites who (because there are rich whites) that race in the very least gets representation. @Beth I think I have said the same thing multiple ways. Do you understand?

I was not aware of the more nefarious things talon pointed out

In AZ and other states they wanted a system to disenfranchise say latino legal immigrant citizens. So they set it up so if all these latino immigrants now citizen had legal photo ID and additional citizenship proof on top they were still denied their right to vote. Poor white folks with ID come on in let's vote it up.