Message from @samwisegamgee77
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Oh nice! It is beautiful here!!
Just rains a little too much
I went to Jr High and High School in The Dalles... I graduated from Klamath Union HS in Klamath Falls. Half my family, it seems, went to UofO.
I lived in Portland for a year before joining the Navy.
Go Ducks! lol
Even though they lost the civil war this year...
Ive been a duck all my life though
I haven't been back in a while... I was disappointed in the way Portland handled the protests/riots over the summer. I know it was localized to a small area downtown, but it just played awful all over the country. I kept think why in the world are they protesting in Portland? I know that there are issues every where, but you know there were folks in the deep south thinking... Huh?
Smartmatic and dominion are competitors
Portland to rural suburban Oregon, is like SO CAL is to Montana IMO. Portland is its own mess. And Kate Brown is probably one of the most hated governors around.
Smartmatic is separate from Dominion yes. however, after Smartmatic bought sequoia in the US, sequoia then went under. They were then bought by Dominion.
That happened after the CNN investigation of course, back when they did their job
Adam, ive heard some scuttle around some of the forensic inspection findings but I'm treating most of that as rumor until there are more sources and counter arguments
@samwisegamgee77, you just advanced to level 7!
Yeah... Sequoia had been around since the 1970's. They made the ballot punching voting machines that were used in the 2000 election that created the hanging/dimpled chads. They were starting work on an eVoting machine, but they were not known to have gotten very far. In 2006, Smartmatic was ordered to sell Sequoia. They did so to a holding company and the sold the assets of Sequoia to Dominion in 2010, I believe. For a contract in the Philippines, Smartmatic licensed the Dominion Voting System, because they couldn't fulfill the order with their own systems. There were issues with the Philippine election and Dominion ended up in court with Smartmatic. That was the extent of their relationship. in 2014, Sequoia filed bankruptcy.
I dont discount the possibility that dominion has put their hand on the scale in some way, but I havent seen enough to reasonably convince me yet.
After they filed Bankruptcy in 2014, their intellectual property was bought by Dominion according to both that .gov website, and other news outlets from around 2017
@em, you just advanced to level 1!
The names of board members, connections, contracts and shells associated with dominion is very alarming to me, but to me, thats all there is at least publicly available currently.
And from what I’ve gathered, Smartmatic remained responsible for sequoia even after that order was given
No.. I am surprised they chose that county. There was a temporary "glitch" in reporting totals to the Sec of State to update the totals. Whoever entered the numbers reversed the numbers for Biden and Trump. Once they realized the problem, they switched them back and all was fine. People that think this was nefarious don't understand that relaying vote counts is often a manual process - because the systems are not on the Internet (or shouldn't be) and MI has 3 different voting systems in use, I believe.
Bidens cabinet picks have been the most alarming to me though
I understood that they bought the assets, including IP in 2010, but I might be misremembering.
Getting the old band back together for more wars.
The holding company formed to divest Smartmatic of Sequoia was owned by the US owners of Smartmatic, I believe.
I read something that convinced me that smartmatic and dominion were closer than they appeared but I have honestly been in the weeds reading shit for the last few weeks I couldn't tell ya where or what it was that convinced me
I don't doubt that Dominion systems have vulnerabilities and are likely to have less than ideal code. I have been coding since I was 9 years old and I have been involved in dozens and dozens of systems... and I can tell you that 4/5 systems are poorly architected and coded.
Thank you. Have the machines been handed over for independent analysis? & I feel it’s appropriate for the machines to forensically examined since so much of the electorate believe malfeasance has taken place.
I think you are, but then again I might be too lol
Iirc, in 2010 the order was given to Smartmatic to dissolve its holding in Sequoia, due to security concerns, determined by CFIUS
Sequoia then went through a long process of dying out, and was attempted to be bought by Hart Inc, Hart learned and reported of their remaining connections to smartmatic, and then I think radio silence for a few years and then the public record shifts from sequoia to dominion
I honestly think they are just competitors. I think Ramsland lost a race when Dominion systems were used and he went on a crusade.
I think they’re posed as competitors, to put the tinfoil hat on
This is utter and complete speculation on my part - I know that many developers that get crazy with their test systems. I could envision a developer that put some test functionality that allowed an Admin type to change vote totals for different test scenarios. I've worked on several systems that had a maintenance screen that exposed similar. This would often be a hidden "internal only" maintenance screen, but I have seen lazy programmers just make it available on a client facing screen.
Like I said all speculation.
Its my bedtime yall. I'm glad we were able to have some great back and forth, civil discussion. I appreciate all the open opinions and research. Have a great day/night all!
The bottom line is that hand recounts would expose any software only vote flipping. To flip a vote electronically and still balance to a hand recount. Ballots would have to be swapped out in all the corresponding precincts where changes were made.
Likewise. Goodnight.
Woohoo! My memory is not so bad after all
I would agree except the ballots are reprinted for the recounts so <a:aPES_Laugh:664885767574781964>