Message from @Vegas.James
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Fine, if you want to be disagreeable for no good reason, "I think it's impossible because it's impossible."
Yeah say the guy asking the question that he is avoiding a question
Interesting
In your mind
Literally just answered it. I'd have answered in more verbose form, but I'm getting tired of your conversational strategy. You should run for office.
No you are just spouting a tautology. That’s non informative @jfindley
It is cuz it is
Dude, don't misunderstand me.. I just don't value your opinion anymore. It's really nothing personal.
I’m not giving a opinion I asked a question about your view
The fact that you equate grown adults (many of whom are volunteering) that are working in support of our democracy with school children is telling. This position could be construed as the confirmation bias that I have been talking about. Instead of giving these people the benefit of the doubt - as you undoubtedly do for those that worked in states that voted for Trump - you choose to assume malfeasance. One could just as easily equate your desire to make this assumption without corroborating proof as being like a school kid believing that every other kid on the playground must be cheating because they aren't winning.
The chain of custody for mail ins doesn't inspire a fair election to me. We need to see a recount of paper ballots. 5000 ballot sample, shuffled like a deck of cards. An honest count for just once, mail instead were not 99% Biden. I need the real numbers.
@Vegas.James not trusting mail ins is not the same as saying there were fraudulent votes. They have done studies on mail in votes in states that vote exclusively by mail and found 0.0025 percent instances of fraud
Don't count without someone to watch you count. Where is your credibility if I don't know you and there is no supporting representative? That's crooked.
If I were to tell you in 2018 that sixteen states would file a federal lawsuit to the supreme court to overturn an election...
For the record, I did not hate Trump as president. I didn't agree with many of his policies and I think he lacked decorum befitting the President of the United States. I think he did some good things. On balance, I disliked more than I liked. But I did not hate him. I severely dislike what he is doing to undermine our democracy/Republic now, though.
Well, here we are.
You don’t need observers to watch the count . They were supervised under the law. You need observers for processing @Vegas.James
Sorry its more important to trust what your oppentens are doing behind closed doors than just push it through. When they invent reasons to kick you out and then keep counting, thats crooked.
Crooks don't obey the laws.
Counting is done in separate
@Vegas.James it wasn’t done behind closed doors
It was down the same as any election
Just Because trump has primed his base to believe everything is fraud doesn’t mean it is @Vegas.James
It's a good thing that didn't happen - as investigated by the Rep SoS and his investigators after reviewing video and interviewing all involved.
The Democracy is not damaged at the hands of Trump. You will have a sea of pissed off people if the left just slams the door and says yeah we counted it for you. We found no problems.
It wasn’t the left , it was non partisan election officials and investigators @Vegas.James
Nothing was done in secret @Vegas.James
Sure, gutless government is here in Minnesota too. Did you see our cities burn?
When you count ballots from under a table with no overseers thats wrong.
The cities burning has nothing to do with voter fraud
They were stored under the table after being legally observed and were then waiting to be counted. The camera footage shows it going from the processing table with observers to the boxes to the table. Then under supervision and video counted as per law @Vegas.James
The amount of pressure on government is insane. Standing with Trump could get you fired or killed.
The pressure comes from trump @Vegas.James https://www.businessinsider.com/pennsylvania-gop-leader-worries-house-would-be-bombed-trump-election-2020-12
They couldn't wait to pull those out and get them in the machine ASAP. Stinky. To put it nicely.
The logistics involved with massive voter fraud is daunting, not the least of which would be having to provide the address of where to send the ballot. Too many ballots to one address - or too many ballots being sent to an address other than the address of record - is a red flag. Using rented mailboxes are also red flags, but these mailboxes require ID and addresses to where to send the bill or credit cards for processing payments. Even if they used fake id's, they often register email addresses to be notified when anything arrives. Plus surveillance video... The bottom line is that massive mail-in fraud would leave massive footprints. They haven't identified any - not even Matt Braynard would be able to make that claim. He just identified what he thought might be suspicious.
You didn’t follow the full story did you? You just took the word of those sham hearings as fact. That’s where your problem of understanding the situation comes from @Vegas.James
Go read what actually happened in that video