Can't be both.

Mutually exclusive!

THIS... THIS RIGHT HERE... Does this help @Maw ?

No one is blaming the victim.

A victim is a victim. They are not at fault.

But you can't go PRETEND to be a victim when you're not!

It's wrong!!!

@meglide I think there are two things happening in courts demonstrating their conceit. 1) There are courts that are ruling out of fear of the consequences, and as cowards have thrown away the integrity of their court. 2) There are those that are ruling out of party loyalty. Both 1) the Republicans, and 2) the Democrats have rendered what little faith existed in our legal system void.

What's wrong with blaming victims? I don't get the hangup.

If you don't insure your house against flood, and your house is flooded, are you not partially responsible? Sure it's global warnings fault, but you should have prepared.

Humans are a force of nature you need to contend with and prepare for. Lower your victim profile or get victimized.

That is a whole different thing. This involves physical assault and rape, etc

You would have an argument worth listening to if the conditions were the same as the 1950's. They are not. You are wrong. We are at war against a Chinese govt. backed insurgency.

the first part is not my read ... I think the courts, for the most part, are doing what they're supposed to ... but I do agree that both parties are politicizing the courts

No it isn't. Humans rape. Rivers flood. Protect yourself.

So, if a child is sent home with instructions from school to ask the man of the house about sex, is the child partially responsible for being raped?

That's a good way to change the discussion. Thanks.

Children are different when it comes to responsibility.

@DrSammyD That doesn't keep the victim from being blamed.

A none consent is a none consent. There is such thing as a consent none consent but that is different. None consent is strictly none consent.

@BoxyPunkChick, you just advanced to level 7!

Consent none consent must be of sound and clear mind

Blame the victims parents

Nonconsensual.

Wow so exact. It's the same thing.

😂

One is grammatically correct.

Both are.

One of the only times I ever agreed with Angela Davis was a talk where she brought up "date rape". She held men blameless because in order for so many men to believe no means yes, there had to be women that said no when they meant yes. The answer however is on men. To clear it all up she recommended that when women would say no, that men make them abide by the decision. That way women would learn to say yes when they mean yes and no when they mean no.

Are the left not the most guilty of this??? I work with the public. I hear rediculous attacks on trump and trump supporters every day. I try to explain that maybe there are others ways to understand our fellow Americans and im told " I'm sorry... but if you vote for someone who is restricting and limiting the lives of others we have no common ground. This is Hitler infantile behavior" to which i respond... you're untitled to youre beliefs. All the while she's checking cnn for updates. The right isn't the perpetrator. And accusing them of this isn't the solution. The left has viliified the right and fringe everything yo silence anything that its contrary to their world view. I love debate! Politics Religion and all the things! But it's no longer an option.

But it's ok. You can have it since I apparently gotten to your bad side. Which isn't what I was trying to do.

Or grandparents, same idea.

Blame is shared and skewed toward the offender.

@vfc alcutta Correct. The Left has been playing a game where they walk up, call you a Nazi, steal something and punch you. If you do not respond they take something else and punch you again. If you do respond they put it on YouTube and screech they have proof you are a Nazi.

It is the model for correcting the behavior that has to be considered. But of course, for it to work, men have to be allowed to be mature men, rather than denigrated for it.

Long live the PLA...

the PLA?

lol

https://www.thedailyfodder.com/2020/12/breaking-official-wisconsin-elections.html

i see nothing from the elections office

just the lawsuit

Case was lost yesterday in WI court, appealed to WI supreme court and lost today there

174000 ballots with no records kekekeke. No wonder scotus dunked these fools.