Like China testing gene manipulation on real live humans?

This is how things operate

"We just cut people open while they were alive for progress, it's a good thing." You realize methods of progress can be inherently bad, yes?

@Cali La La China had no moral ethics and poorer safety standards. They crispr cas 9 a pair of twins to be hiv resistant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e0LVlXqCIg&ab_channel=TheFinanceHub

Then we never heard from the doctor again

@Maw we have ethical standards

We can’t do a lot of things

I think they're more talking about Unit 731.

I know

America then paid for the research

Yep.

Well, yes and no.

They basically gave people immunity for having the research.

But modern medical ethics no longer allow for such a thing, hence progress

That is inherently conservative, morals and ethical restrictions.

We develop better ways to do research

No that’s just a being humane issue

Being humane is a liberal virtue

The way you're defining conservativism being resistance to progress, yes, it means that limits imposed by morality and ethics is inherently conservative by your logic.

Naw.

You made the point that conservatives are ohms, and progress is electricity.

Don't change your definitions now.

No being conservatives is applying old outdated paradigms to new environments

That's all the rage now a days, didn't you know?

@Cali La La never did

Bad methods are foolishly justified by flawed Motives or desired Outcomes?

Jusitifcations.

We wouldn’t have modern medicine if people didn’t rob graves because autopsies were immoral

Self Serving Justifications?

I thought today's conservative is yesterday's liberal?

Or did you change your mind on that too?

Yes @Maw

That is the trend for human history

@james j You realize that this is directly describing resistance yes?

And not applying old and outdated things to the existing system.

Actually may be True depending of the Definitions?

It's about upholding the status quo when you feel the risk outweighs the benefit.

The job of the left is to ensure the lowest in society are not forgotten, the job of the centrists/liberals is to push forward with new ideas, the job of the conservatives is to control the speed of change. every person has a tendency to one of these roles by their own personality. You need all types of people to produce a cohesive society.

The status quo is literally the system as it exists today.

resistance to a new paradigm , insisting on older paradigms while not taking in the new environment @Maw