Message from @Maw

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2020-12-13 22:47:07 UTC  

You do realize that all progress is not always positive, right? We're talking about methods of progress.

2020-12-13 22:47:17 UTC  

Methods of progress are not always positive.

2020-12-13 22:47:23 UTC  

Stagnation is always negative

2020-12-13 22:47:41 UTC  

Take a chance on progress and correct as you go

2020-12-13 22:47:51 UTC  

A Slippery Slope argument is usually achieved by Emotional responses prior to any meaningful thought or reflection?

2020-12-13 22:47:54 UTC  

Pretty reckless.

2020-12-13 22:48:02 UTC  

The job of the conservative is to be a little bit of a stick in the mud

2020-12-13 22:48:11 UTC  

That is their utility

2020-12-13 22:48:21 UTC  

Like China testing gene manipulation on real live humans?

2020-12-13 22:48:26 UTC  

This is how things operate

2020-12-13 22:49:24 UTC  

"We just cut people open while they were alive for progress, it's a good thing." You realize methods of progress can be inherently bad, yes?

2020-12-13 22:49:30 UTC  

@Cali La La China had no moral ethics and poorer safety standards. They crispr cas 9 a pair of twins to be hiv resistant

2020-12-13 22:49:38 UTC  

Then we never heard from the doctor again

2020-12-13 22:49:58 UTC  

@Maw we have ethical standards

2020-12-13 22:50:05 UTC  

We can’t do a lot of things

2020-12-13 22:50:05 UTC  

I think they're more talking about Unit 731.

2020-12-13 22:50:10 UTC  

I know

2020-12-13 22:50:18 UTC  

America then paid for the research

2020-12-13 22:50:22 UTC  

Yep.

2020-12-13 22:50:29 UTC  

Well, yes and no.

2020-12-13 22:50:40 UTC  

They basically gave people immunity for having the research.

2020-12-13 22:50:48 UTC  

But modern medical ethics no longer allow for such a thing, hence progress

2020-12-13 22:51:07 UTC  

That is inherently conservative, morals and ethical restrictions.

2020-12-13 22:51:10 UTC  

We develop better ways to do research

2020-12-13 22:51:27 UTC  

No that’s just a being humane issue

2020-12-13 22:51:49 UTC  

Being humane is a liberal virtue

2020-12-13 22:52:00 UTC  

The way you're defining conservativism being resistance to progress, yes, it means that limits imposed by morality and ethics is inherently conservative by your logic.

2020-12-13 22:52:02 UTC  

Naw.

2020-12-13 22:52:30 UTC  

You made the point that conservatives are ohms, and progress is electricity.

2020-12-13 22:52:35 UTC  

Don't change your definitions now.

2020-12-13 22:52:49 UTC  

No being conservatives is applying old outdated paradigms to new environments

2020-12-13 22:52:54 UTC  

That's all the rage now a days, didn't you know?

2020-12-13 22:53:27 UTC  

@Cali La La never did

2020-12-13 22:53:30 UTC  

Bad methods are foolishly justified by flawed Motives or desired Outcomes?

2020-12-13 22:54:49 UTC  

Jusitifcations.

2020-12-13 22:55:31 UTC  

We wouldn’t have modern medicine if people didn’t rob graves because autopsies were immoral

2020-12-13 22:55:32 UTC  

Self Serving Justifications?

2020-12-13 22:55:45 UTC  

I thought today's conservative is yesterday's liberal?

2020-12-13 22:55:52 UTC  

Or did you change your mind on that too?

2020-12-13 22:55:53 UTC  

Yes @Maw