Message from @William Dinan

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2020-12-14 18:07:16 UTC  

fair but absent an injunction the electors are voting today

2020-12-14 18:07:27 UTC  

Electors Clause is a US Constitutional Issue.

2020-12-14 18:08:24 UTC  

Voting in the State Yes.

2020-12-14 18:08:27 UTC  

So many ways to steal.

2020-12-14 18:08:38 UTC  

Finally someone enters the sphere of US political life with a proven track record for making things happen at scale.

Every thinking person and party loyalist should not rest until there is a Little Red Book in The possession of all the citizenry of The People's Republic of Lemon'ey Fresh.

2020-12-14 18:08:45 UTC  

They were appealing to how the state conducted their election and the rules they set out for the election. They have no standing for that @William Dinan

2020-12-14 18:09:59 UTC  

more massive and detailed no evidence

2020-12-14 18:10:02 UTC  

I have said all along this should have been an Electors Clause Issue not an Election one.

2020-12-14 18:10:08 UTC  

which if you read between the lines is different that saying it is purely a state issue at least as far as Thomas and Alito are concerned ... seems the other Justices lumped not granting remedy into standing

2020-12-14 18:11:12 UTC  

@William Dinan well that is what the appealed to and correctly lost on standing

2020-12-14 18:11:26 UTC  

Reading between the lines does not established Law.

2020-12-14 18:12:15 UTC  

Standing is Bullshit made up by Lazy Judges IMO.

2020-12-14 18:12:25 UTC  

^ this

2020-12-14 18:12:38 UTC  

@meglide if I remember there is a interpretation that makes it a a legal requirement to listen to Texas

2020-12-14 18:12:47 UTC  
2020-12-14 18:13:18 UTC  

Just saying it as Barnes did does not make it so @William Dinan

2020-12-14 18:13:24 UTC  

maybe reading the lines that Thomas and Alito wrote may be a better way of saying it ... but yeah this dismissal sets no precedence which may not be a good thing

2020-12-14 18:13:36 UTC  

When and how was the Legal Principle of Standing Established?

2020-12-14 18:14:01 UTC  

the states share a contract, the constitution, if Texas doesn't have "standing" to challenge another party to that contract (another state) nobody does

2020-12-14 18:14:24 UTC  

They were Vague for a Reason.

2020-12-14 18:14:50 UTC  

You tell me. Under the definition currently given Texas did not have standing (something that has existed for a 100 years) @William Dinan

2020-12-14 18:14:52 UTC  

thus the second paragraph in the order

2020-12-14 18:16:00 UTC  

@Phil they can tell an other stage how to run a election or interpret its laws. The constitution gives the state the right to run their own election.

2020-12-14 18:16:11 UTC  

And I can say only 100 Years. The Electors Clause was around long before that.

2020-12-14 18:16:59 UTC  

@William Dinan again they appealed to the state process and the states laws , something they don’t have legal standing to

2020-12-14 18:17:04 UTC  

it's that inside baseball thing that I would like to hear @Uncivil Law discuss more

2020-12-14 18:17:17 UTC  

@William Dinan getting rid of that would be a liberal dream btw

2020-12-14 18:17:33 UTC  

@james j the argument was that the state didn't follow its own laws.

2020-12-14 18:17:41 UTC  

@meglide it’s probably a technical law that requires that they be heard

2020-12-14 18:17:41 UTC  

The US Constitution is not a State Law Question.

2020-12-14 18:18:03 UTC  

@William Dinan the states election is a states law question

2020-12-14 18:18:15 UTC  

Again this was what they appealed to @William Dinan

2020-12-14 18:18:26 UTC  

Again Electors....

2020-12-14 18:18:33 UTC  

if it was established outside the elector's clause they do ... I see the caveat on PA election result website as an admission of guilt on that one

2020-12-14 18:19:30 UTC  

If we got rid of standing we could force states to legalize weed @William Dinan again the electors clause is not the issue. They attacked the states own laws which is beyond their ability

2020-12-14 18:20:40 UTC  

@meglide the PA thing was done internally. They recognized the error in procedure and thus technically unconstitutional on the state level, relative to the states own constitution. However the remedy they asked for was not appropriate

2020-12-14 18:20:45 UTC  

Jesus. You don't follow my argument.

2020-12-14 18:21:01 UTC  

@William Dinan you keep appealing to something that wasn’t appealed to

2020-12-14 18:22:45 UTC  

My discussion has always been "Should". Not arguing "Was". It is a discussion on a Legal Position.

2020-12-14 18:23:02 UTC  

You stated standing was bs