Message from @William Dinan

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2020-12-14 18:04:47 UTC  

I'm talking about Process, not Outcomes.

2020-12-14 18:05:22 UTC  

Pennsylvania did not injure Texas

2020-12-14 18:05:34 UTC  

Barnes is a hack that works for the Trump campaign

2020-12-14 18:05:45 UTC  

agreed and I think Thomas and Alito would have preferred a different process but the outcome would have been the same

2020-12-14 18:06:15 UTC  

Equal Protection on the Selection of Electors.

2020-12-14 18:06:34 UTC  

That’s in state. @William Dinan

2020-12-14 18:06:39 UTC  

A state issue

2020-12-14 18:06:41 UTC  

I'm not sure.

2020-12-14 18:07:08 UTC  

They literally said they would not grant the remedy they ask @William Dinan

2020-12-14 18:07:16 UTC  

fair but absent an injunction the electors are voting today

2020-12-14 18:07:27 UTC  

Electors Clause is a US Constitutional Issue.

2020-12-14 18:08:24 UTC  

Voting in the State Yes.

2020-12-14 18:08:27 UTC  

So many ways to steal.

2020-12-14 18:08:38 UTC  

Finally someone enters the sphere of US political life with a proven track record for making things happen at scale.

Every thinking person and party loyalist should not rest until there is a Little Red Book in The possession of all the citizenry of The People's Republic of Lemon'ey Fresh.

2020-12-14 18:08:45 UTC  

They were appealing to how the state conducted their election and the rules they set out for the election. They have no standing for that @William Dinan

2020-12-14 18:09:59 UTC  

more massive and detailed no evidence

2020-12-14 18:10:02 UTC  

I have said all along this should have been an Electors Clause Issue not an Election one.

2020-12-14 18:10:08 UTC  

which if you read between the lines is different that saying it is purely a state issue at least as far as Thomas and Alito are concerned ... seems the other Justices lumped not granting remedy into standing

2020-12-14 18:11:12 UTC  

@William Dinan well that is what the appealed to and correctly lost on standing

2020-12-14 18:11:26 UTC  

Reading between the lines does not established Law.

2020-12-14 18:12:15 UTC  

Standing is Bullshit made up by Lazy Judges IMO.

2020-12-14 18:12:25 UTC  

^ this

2020-12-14 18:12:38 UTC  

@meglide if I remember there is a interpretation that makes it a a legal requirement to listen to Texas

2020-12-14 18:12:47 UTC  
2020-12-14 18:13:18 UTC  

Just saying it as Barnes did does not make it so @William Dinan

2020-12-14 18:13:24 UTC  

maybe reading the lines that Thomas and Alito wrote may be a better way of saying it ... but yeah this dismissal sets no precedence which may not be a good thing

2020-12-14 18:13:36 UTC  

When and how was the Legal Principle of Standing Established?

2020-12-14 18:14:01 UTC  

the states share a contract, the constitution, if Texas doesn't have "standing" to challenge another party to that contract (another state) nobody does

2020-12-14 18:14:24 UTC  

They were Vague for a Reason.

2020-12-14 18:14:50 UTC  

You tell me. Under the definition currently given Texas did not have standing (something that has existed for a 100 years) @William Dinan

2020-12-14 18:14:52 UTC  

thus the second paragraph in the order

2020-12-14 18:16:00 UTC  

@Phil they can tell an other stage how to run a election or interpret its laws. The constitution gives the state the right to run their own election.

2020-12-14 18:16:11 UTC  

And I can say only 100 Years. The Electors Clause was around long before that.

2020-12-14 18:16:59 UTC  

@William Dinan again they appealed to the state process and the states laws , something they don’t have legal standing to

2020-12-14 18:17:04 UTC  

it's that inside baseball thing that I would like to hear @Uncivil Law discuss more

2020-12-14 18:17:17 UTC  

@William Dinan getting rid of that would be a liberal dream btw

2020-12-14 18:17:33 UTC  

@james j the argument was that the state didn't follow its own laws.

2020-12-14 18:17:41 UTC  

@meglide it’s probably a technical law that requires that they be heard

2020-12-14 18:17:41 UTC  

The US Constitution is not a State Law Question.

2020-12-14 18:18:03 UTC  

@William Dinan the states election is a states law question