Message from @Phil

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2020-12-20 19:27:26 UTC  

Just look at Obama's drone program.

2020-12-20 19:28:15 UTC  

I don't even know what 'progressive' even means anymore. It cools like a refrigerator; relative to ambient conditions.

2020-12-20 19:29:25 UTC  

Trump attacked the Press with Words. Obama attacked the Press with Government Agencies?

2020-12-20 19:30:44 UTC  

They are railing against their own party members, including fellow party members who are also progressive. BLM is now turning on Biden because, like typical democrat campaign strategy, use the minorities to bolster your votes. A federal investigation into his child, who was flown over to China on government property for personal purposes, is kicking up more even though issues surrounding his family go back longer than the laptop reveal. Not to mention the transition team members being big tech people and big business people, including a fair amount of former Obama administration members. This guy has nothing surrounding him that builds up confidence other than *hAhA oRaNgE mAn BaD hE lOsT*

2020-12-20 19:31:56 UTC  

Now if only Market-skeptic republicans weren't chased out of the GOP party.

2020-12-20 19:33:12 UTC  

Market-skeptic? That's a new term. What's it mean?

2020-12-20 19:33:13 UTC  

@DeathRhodes666, you just advanced to level 6!

2020-12-20 19:34:40 UTC  

That they overlap with strong liberals (94%) that think the economic system overwhelmingly favors powerful interests.

2020-12-20 19:35:01 UTC  

Oh. Well of course I know them, they're me haha

2020-12-20 19:35:11 UTC  

I didn't know that's what they were called

2020-12-20 19:35:17 UTC  

Eh, might not be, there are some other things on top of that.

2020-12-20 19:35:53 UTC  

They generally favor more regulation on capitalism than deregulation.

2020-12-20 19:36:00 UTC  

Well then they aren't me

2020-12-20 19:36:08 UTC  

I prefer minimal regulation.

2020-12-20 19:36:26 UTC  

Then you're going to have a system that favors powerful interests.

2020-12-20 19:37:10 UTC  

A fair or heavily regulated system also favors powerful interests by reducing the chance for start-ups to achieve a stable and competitive level

2020-12-20 19:37:29 UTC  

I mean... depends on the regulation.

2020-12-20 19:37:33 UTC  

Powerful create Jobs. I have never worked for a Poor Person.

2020-12-20 19:38:46 UTC  

Powerful also create the situation we currently find ourselves in with divisiveness, horizontal monopolies, and more.

2020-12-20 19:38:57 UTC  

Minimal regulations would be those that only cover what is necessary for safe and proper function. OSHA regs? Need those. FDA regs? could be thinned down but still need those.

2020-12-20 19:39:10 UTC  

@Maw thats more a criticism of corruption than capitalism

2020-12-20 19:39:39 UTC  

Uh, unregulated capitalism is inherently going to get more corrupt over time, yes, that's the problem.\

2020-12-20 19:39:46 UTC  

there are thousands of regulations and laws that can be applied, they just never are because reasons....

2020-12-20 19:40:58 UTC  

for law makers, each problem requires a new law...

2020-12-20 19:41:27 UTC  

Or could it be the desire to redistribute Wealth?

2020-12-20 19:41:57 UTC  

The Great Reset right?

2020-12-20 19:42:05 UTC  

Eh? That's a different topic.

2020-12-20 19:42:22 UTC  

Is it really?

2020-12-20 19:42:27 UTC  

Yep.

2020-12-20 19:42:44 UTC  

We disagree.

2020-12-20 19:43:13 UTC  

Let me know how economic regulation equals redistribution and maybe we'll agree.

2020-12-20 19:44:33 UTC  

corruption occurs because decisions get delegated

2020-12-20 19:44:56 UTC  

Please define what you are calling Economic Regulations?

2020-12-20 19:46:29 UTC  

Regulations on tax deductibles, regulations on corporations buying out competition, regulations on horizontal and vertical monopolies, regulations on corporate money in politics, regulations on numerous other things which primarily relate to ethics issues.

2020-12-20 19:47:11 UTC  

we already have thousands of these

2020-12-20 19:47:25 UTC  

Certainly isn't working at all now is it:?

2020-12-20 19:48:00 UTC  

@Phil thats because they are selectively applied and deliberately left ambiguous

2020-12-20 19:48:35 UTC  

Sounds like it's not good regulation then.

2020-12-20 19:49:20 UTC  

@Maw depends though on what you mean by not working. you are among the richest people that ever lived and are among the top 10% richest people on the planet today

2020-12-20 19:50:28 UTC  

And? Do we really want corporations to be able to hire illegal immigrants under the table and pay them below minimum wage? I don't understand the argument of 'oh, well, we're still better off than X'.

2020-12-20 19:51:06 UTC  

@Maw if i give everyone $10 is everyone richer?