Message from @Phil

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2020-12-20 19:39:46 UTC  

there are thousands of regulations and laws that can be applied, they just never are because reasons....

2020-12-20 19:40:58 UTC  

for law makers, each problem requires a new law...

2020-12-20 19:41:27 UTC  

Or could it be the desire to redistribute Wealth?

2020-12-20 19:41:57 UTC  

The Great Reset right?

2020-12-20 19:42:05 UTC  

Eh? That's a different topic.

2020-12-20 19:42:22 UTC  

Is it really?

2020-12-20 19:42:27 UTC  

Yep.

2020-12-20 19:42:44 UTC  

We disagree.

2020-12-20 19:43:13 UTC  

Let me know how economic regulation equals redistribution and maybe we'll agree.

2020-12-20 19:44:33 UTC  

corruption occurs because decisions get delegated

2020-12-20 19:44:56 UTC  

Please define what you are calling Economic Regulations?

2020-12-20 19:46:29 UTC  

Regulations on tax deductibles, regulations on corporations buying out competition, regulations on horizontal and vertical monopolies, regulations on corporate money in politics, regulations on numerous other things which primarily relate to ethics issues.

2020-12-20 19:47:11 UTC  

we already have thousands of these

2020-12-20 19:47:25 UTC  

Certainly isn't working at all now is it:?

2020-12-20 19:48:00 UTC  

@Phil thats because they are selectively applied and deliberately left ambiguous

2020-12-20 19:48:35 UTC  

Sounds like it's not good regulation then.

2020-12-20 19:49:20 UTC  

@Maw depends though on what you mean by not working. you are among the richest people that ever lived and are among the top 10% richest people on the planet today

2020-12-20 19:50:28 UTC  

And? Do we really want corporations to be able to hire illegal immigrants under the table and pay them below minimum wage? I don't understand the argument of 'oh, well, we're still better off than X'.

2020-12-20 19:51:06 UTC  

@Maw if i give everyone $10 is everyone richer?

2020-12-20 19:51:22 UTC  

Why are you bringing up wealth redistribution?

2020-12-20 19:52:02 UTC  

@Maw if the minimum wage goes up, people have more money, they demand more goods and services, sellers see rise in demand and raise their price.

2020-12-20 19:52:20 UTC  

I'm talking about an ethical problem, not minimum wage.

2020-12-20 19:52:55 UTC  

We are number three in the world on creating individual wealth per capita.

2020-12-20 19:53:02 UTC  

Cool.

2020-12-20 19:54:53 UTC  

@Maw somebody has to come last in society. is that ethical? its a matter of fact. peoples talents and skills are not distributed uniformly

2020-12-20 19:55:12 UTC  

Again not talking about wealth redistribution, stop thinking I am.

2020-12-20 19:58:35 UTC  

@Maw to prevent corruption, have fewer politicians and pay them more (obscenely more)

2020-12-20 19:58:47 UTC  

What?

2020-12-20 19:58:55 UTC  

@Maw yes

2020-12-20 19:59:17 UTC  

I can't even.

2020-12-20 19:59:29 UTC  

@Zuluzeit Help me here. I need to do my hair.

2020-12-20 19:59:49 UTC  

Actually the cost of goods increase due to cost of production. It has very little to do with supply and demand?

2020-12-20 20:00:09 UTC  

you have to be prepared to have much fewer people making decisions. this makes the system more accountable. so its very clear who is corrupt

2020-12-20 20:00:49 UTC  

you have to pay them obscene amounts of money. money is why people take bribes and become corrupted. if there is no financial reward there is little incentive

2020-12-20 20:01:32 UTC  

As I said, this isn't about minimum wage, it's about businesses doing unethical things which influences the job market, and therefore the supply of jobs (and therefore the job's average wage). It has nothing to do with the minimum wage, it has to do with businesses taking advantage of illegal immigrants, much the same way as businesses go out of America to create sweatshops.

2020-12-20 20:01:35 UTC  

the cost of goods would affect both supply and demand

2020-12-20 20:01:55 UTC  

Stop thinking it's about wealth redistribution, for the love of God.

2020-12-20 20:02:01 UTC  

Now I'm going to do my hair brb

2020-12-20 20:02:50 UTC  

I know. I didn't Tag you I'm my comment.

2020-12-20 20:03:04 UTC  

i dont get it either, you are surprised that people take advantage of lower cost labor?

2020-12-20 20:03:38 UTC  

ask apple, they are willing to go to court to protect their right to exploit low cost labor