@DeathRhodes666 no

If you take care of yourself you spend less money in your later years and for a shorter duration @DeathRhodes666

yes they could all just die young like in the past and then social security and medicare wouldn't pose such a financial problem ... got it

Or they could just not get heart disease in the first place and not need medication to stay alive @meglide these people would have lived to 80 without heart disease and taxing the system

And where should the government be involved in making the personal decisions to take care of yourself?

If people took care of themselves they could retire later than 65 @meglide

@DeathRhodes666 it’s not a personal decision. It’s just access to preventive care. A healthy society is a productive , smarter and more happy society

Or simply ration Medical Care on a age basis and return on investment?

you are so thick-headed you don't know what you are talking about ... put on your thinking cap for a second and consider what was the average life span 100 yrs ago prior to modern medicine? what percent lived into their 80's?

@meglide again our care went up but so did our crappy diets. People used to die from infections not heart disease in the past.

Then wouldn't better nutritional education be the better option? Or even start a culture of healthy living an eating? Both of which do not require government involvement at all?

or if they saved up they could retire earlier ... retirement and health are somewhat unrelated, although lots of folks health goes up in retirement

https://fullfact.org/media/uploads/190514_heart_disease_rate.png

@DeathRhodes666 eduction and access to health care go hand in hand

They don't though. Like, not at all....How?

@Doc medication and prevention thank you the NHS

never mind @Doc just schooled you

He proved my point

whatever you say

That is the UK with NHS

You know the UK has the NHS right? @meglide

woops...

germany is above you. 😄

So all the other counties perform better

@james j 🤣 they say laughter is good for the heart ... thanks for your medicine

@james j ideology is dangerous. Avoid it.

I was able to predict you would claim it was NHS, so I had some fun.

It’s about getting it

Achilles heal, man.

Which means spending more money

(its because I love you regardless)

You guys are not making the case you think you are making

Less deaths mean more money

More cases means more money

Ok. School the mortality researcher on mortality.

Preventing getting it is less money

@Doc . image how the increase of Age (Expectancy) may increase Comorbidities?

higher age, more cancer = conspiracy theory on 5G

never thought of it that way ... wonder why?

why what?