Message from @duckherder
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I know of exactly 3 arrests that have been made for voter fraud in this election: (a) the guy in PA that votes as his dead grandmother to vote for Trump; (b) the guy in SC that requested 50 FL mail-in ballots be sent to his address; (c) an idiot in CA that tried to stuff the ballot box with 8000 votes for a local election.
That's it. If you are aware of any more arrests, I would love to hear about them.
I know that Trump has received hundreds of millions of dollars to spend on his legal challenges to the election. They must've spent some of that money hiring investigators to prove fraud, right? How about law enforcement agencies that all endorsed Trump's candidacy? They've been working overtime proving voter fraud and making more arrests, right?
Do people live in here? This country's elections are absolute garbage. There's no debate.
yeah so how did those ballots get there? there are all these guards and checks to ensure that only legitimate ballots are in the count and every audit of those guards and checks turn up nothing to suggest there are enough illegitimate in the stack to make a difference in the overall result
Why are you here then? This place is all about debate. You have all your answers.
IDK what you're talking about, but safeguards? Please. Not in this country
@duckherder, you just advanced to level 6!
What is left to debate?
You're assuming there was no intent to steal the election, I'm assuming there was intent to steal the election. Guards are only as good as what they won't turn a blind eye to, not to mention what the procedures set in place they happen to catch. Lets not forget some of the swing states in a mocking fashion had said oooooohhhhh we are going to be busy. So we can't provide you details about the chain of custody until the day before inauguration
Biden elected by electoral college in worst run election since 1960
Case closed
@duckherder Remain civil.
Oi
The only reason that anyone assumes that there was intent to steal the election is because Trump insisted that it was going to be stolen... Which is what he has done in literally every election he has participated in going back to the 2003 Emmy awards. Literally every one.
I assumed it because of what I heard and witnessed from the democrat side. Your statement is an assumption on its own.
you know like showing an ID when you show up to vote and they mark your name as having voted in the voter registration then you go over to another person who hands you a ballot, then you fill it out and then you take the special cover and someone shows you how to insert in it into the machine ... or if you vote via mail-in/absentee you have to supply ID and fill-out an application, they check against the voter roll, check off your name to say they sent you a ballot, then you fill out the ballot, and there's an outer envelope that you have to sign, then when you return it they check your signature, etc.
@duckherder Final warning, if you can't debate civilly, then you've found the wrong Discord to participate in.
Like signature checks on mail in ballots which is the purported cohort of ballots that got Biden elected. Or wait
Calling people insane, bots, or brainless is unacceptable discourse here, please keep this in mind.
by guards I mean safe-guards such as voter registration rolls, only sending ballots to valid registered voters, keeping track of who has voted, checking signatures on the mail-ins, checking IDs in the application process and for those that vote in person, etc., etc. ... then there is the audit trail of the ballots themselves, the applications, the returned signed envelopes, where the votes were cast, etc.
There's debate. And then there's nattering. I'll show myself out and go somewhere more intellectual. Like the truck stop.
Good luck.
This is the same assumption that all trump supporters voted in person because trump said to.
There is a bias that is making you believe that whatever DADDY trump says .... the minions follow, and that simply doesn't bear out. Everything which I am doing / have said is never because dear supreme leader trump said it. Or may have said something similar to it after I had already arived at that conclusion myself.
That is literally the opposite of what should happen. If you want to make the affirmative claim that it was not legit then you need to make a preliminary case.
In what 60 lawsuits so far not a single one successful?
Basically what you are asserting is that every time a candidate loses (even bigly) they can make us go through a Constitutional Crisis and tear down our elections because their ego is larger than their comb over piss colored hairstyle
yeah oh wait .. they did an extensive audit of that in GA https://sos.ga.gov/admin/uploads/Cobb%20County%20ABM%20Audit%20Report%2020201229.pdf
that's correct not all Trump voters voted in person BUT the GA sec of state projects that Trump lost 20k or more votes because his supporters didn't avail themselves of mail-in ballots
Even Trump's own Justice Department says there was no widespread fraud that could possibly effect the results....
The problem here is that the Cult simply will never believe he lost... it doesnt matter what we do.
And we knew that before the election. Interview after interview of Trump Supporters said that IF Biden wins then the only way he won was by cheating.
It's ridiculous. There is nothing we can do to convince the hardcore Trump Cult Members that he not only lost but lost huge.
Please don't call a certain political side a cult please.
Fanboys? 😂
At this point I've got all the swing states jumbled up, so id have to look specifically at Georgia to make any arguments. I'm speaking to the broader election cycle for now but if wed like to hone in to a state I can refresh any current arguments I may have. I just hopped on here.
Far more acceptable than 'cult' in my honest opinion.
I'd suggest against both though.
There's actually a book with that term "cult" in the title trying to explain the phenomenon ... but use of that term in that context is probably more to sell the book than anything
100% it's to sell the book.
Did anyone get a chance to view either of these.
One for election which sounds like a fairy tale and I don't know where to begin debunking. AZ elections fraud allegation.
https://www.brighteon.com/a14d6e68-73e1-4d56-bf38-e26cf4277a29
And the other a controversial but very good video about the perspective many on the left that are pro-defund police or defund the police sympathetic may not be factoring in. https://crossfire.movie
I think I'm agreeing with you in that there is no one theory of the "election fraud crime" that fits with the available facts on the ground ... no all Trump voters voted in person and not all Biden voters voted via mail-in ballots ... it's clear from states that some voted Biden top of ticket and voted Republican and/or 3rd party down ballot and it's also clear there were some ballots where only the top of the ticket was filled out (some Trump, more for Biden)
This is from Christmas time in Seoul back in 2019. ... Unfortunately, they likely had fraud in their March 2020 elections. :/ ... Had a guy come up to me and ask if I were a CIA operative, hahahahaha.
If we work off of that understanding it makes the already suspicious statistically impossible spread of hundreds of thousands of biden votes vs hardly over 3,000 trump votes all that more implausible. I believe this is PA I'm referring to.
Ded. Please don't have a useless response