There is actually some logic to support the idea that mail in ballots are MORE secure as the create a paper trail and a physical record

@JD~Jordan not when you can just request one be sent anywhere m

That's stupid everybody's information is probably been stolen five times and sold 15.

Again... though there is ZERO evidence of any such breach with the GA voter rolls I absolutely concede it COULD happen and would in fact be the easiest part of a fraud

Not in GA. It can only be mailed to the address on file or they have to request an address change in the application which receives a higher level of scrutiny

In every single scenario I have asked you to walk me through I have said "lets assume they were able to get the voters' personal information"

That is the easy part

well, I mean I have no idea how easy it is... but of the steps one would have to take to get enough mail in ballots cast to effect an outcome the obtaining of the voters' personal information would be the easiest step

The most difficult part would be not getting caught at the provisional ballot level

I think that was one of the criticisms that it could be mailed anywhere.

Some number of those Voters who had their information stolen and fraudulent ballots cast in their names are going to show up to vote themselves.... this is where your plans fall apart

Didn't you share a link once that was Gabriel Sterling demonstrating how to use the web portal to request a ballot online?

Lets say 20% of the 10,000 voters whose information you stole and cast ballots in their name show up to vote. That is 2,000 voters that will appear to have voted twice. These voters would also have to cast provisional ballots which automatically get flagged for further scrutiny.
We know this hasn't happened.

My song!

In the Navy by the Village People?

@JD~Jordanif they only mailed to the address that's on the voter registration they may as well just automatically mail it.

It doesn't make sense to support the infrastructure for the request it's got to be more expensive than just mailing out the damn ballot.

@JD~Jordan@TaLoN132

Well.... that is what Trump really bitched about. If you recall he was saying that if you request the ballot then its bad but not nearly as bad if they are just mailed out to all registered voters.

But I do see your point. You have X number of voters. You mail out X number of ballots. So I get there is some level of security in doing it that way.

But what I am trying to get you or anyone to do is to actually walk me through how (after you got the personal info of the voters) you get the ballots, sign them, mail them and then make sure the voters whose information you stole don't also go in and vote in significant enough numbers to establish something is wrong?

I just don't see how that is possible

According to the screenshot above and Gwinnett county ballots can only be mailed to the address on file...

Yes... what you linked there is Gwinnett county and it says that the ballots must be mailed to the permanent address of the registered voter barring those few exceptions.

This is why I kept saying that baring some extremely masterful hacking and altering of how the United States Postal Service delivers the mail an EVIL CORP representative would have to hide in the bushes by the voter's mail box and steal the ballot from their mail box in order to fill it out and mail it back. (Note: its also a federal offense to steal shit from people's mail box)

I KNOW.... that is what I said. In GA the ballots could only be mailed to the address on file. So how does EVIL CORP snag that ballot out of the Voter's Mail Box?

This is why I keep asking you to walk me through the process

That's the guy. Thanks for the update. Could have saved me a ton of time watching his BS vids.

Seriously, if he had done anything he would have shown more than a WiFi analyzer showing a smart TV somewhere has open WiFi.

Also, he's not detailing ANYTHING just muddying the water. If he's as hopeful to let the truth be known regardless of political pressure, you'd think there'd be accurate information about the poll pads, that they're not dominion machines, and he'd be correcting misinformation.

His video of dominion sales pitch was pretty heavily edited, removed from all context, probably very old from when states first purchased the gear (years ago?) And his review of the manuals from dominion machines is misleading. He's far from impartial as he claims and I wasted too much time watching his smug preaching while he's withholding any technical details that would have provided evidence.

https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-21/chapter-2/article-10/

@JD~Jordan

So it's a Georgia state law.

@busillis I suppose we are just having a communication failure here.

I have conceded that its absolutely possible for EVIL CORP to get their hands on Voters Personal Info... that is the easy part.

In GA a voter had to request a mail in ballot to be mailed to them. They could do that online or via the mail. Either way that ballot has to go to their Permanent Address that is on file with the Election Board.

So, I see two options:
1) They hide in the bushes by the mail box of each and every voter whom they have requested a ballot for, or
2) They somehow hack into the United States Postal Service and or the Election Board and somehow divert those mail in ballots to some other address where they have easy access to get the ballot and then go back in and switch everything back to cover their tracks

But, again... assume they can get this done without getting caught. They still have to figure out to select just the right voters to make sure a significant number of them don't actually also request a mail in ballot or show up to vote in person

@JD~Jordan which brings me to do you have any idea how much mail is lost in Atlanta.

It's insane.

holy shit

who cares? you still haent address the most important part

https://www.ajc.com/news/post-office-moving-atlanta-unclaimed-mail-auction-online/niHOiTayT5O4TdGPJv1czN/

I have said, in every example, that Dr. Evil and EVIL CORP are brilliant and got the ballots in their grubby little hand without getting caught.

BUT..... how do they keep the voters whose information they stole and who they cast fraudulent ballots in their name to not also go in and try to vote themselves?

Sharks with fucking lasers on their heads?

@JD~Jordan every system has vulnerabilities and can be hacked...

Just have to figure out where they are.

He was very off-putting... The biggest red flag to me was the way that he bullied and redirected anyone that tried to question him. He was a pompous ass that pontificated rather than presenting a thoughtful analysis. I knew he was all bluster from the way he conducted himself. Reminded me of Newman from Seinfeld.

SO the answer is "I dont know"

thanks

Yet..