Message from @Gypsy
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Wilson's wife signed a lot of stuff after his stroke.
Ahh dang why did i miss that LOL @Zuluzeit
@Shitty Kitty I don't know how old you are, so I won't bag on you. Lol
I don't know, opinions are opinions but it seems unfair to Wilson that he got blamed for doing something right after other people did it wrong
not that Wilson was a great president
Nido what exactly do u mean by that
what did he do right after others did wrong?
Old enuf to know better and young enuf not to care...
I mean Wilson was the first president to pass an income tax bill after the 16th amendment made them constitutional
@NIDo and then it was amended and the Wilson signed it into law. Plus he just did a lot of other invasive political acts to expand government. Not a fan.
Wilson had some bad things go down. WW1 and the pandemic. Tough times.
but he wasn't the first to impose an income tax
@nido I mean it’s possible for us to agree on facts but have fundamental differences in how evaluate the facts.
@RobertGrulerEsq isn't congress in charge of Taxation? how is it fair to judge Wilson for what congress(the people) decided?
That's a fair question.
Lol you guys are asking a lot of guy to write a philosophical defense on a random question in a chat. 😂
we can post cat pictures if you want
I don’t know Robert’s position but in my ranking the worst presidents are going to be people who expanded the power of federal government when it wasn’t necessary for the government to protect public interest or its obligation to the public.
@NidoGod With Wilson, I'm not a fan of his fiscal policies generally speaking but agree he was part of a major national conversation on the issues and was part of a wave. But he signed the new major tax policies into law and was responsible for enforcing them. He's generally credited with laying the foundation of the modern tax framework, which is what I don't like. So he gets the blame! And @Auto Presidents typically set the agendas and have the opportunity to veto unworthy bills.
fair enough
Still surprised noone said FDR thought everyone hated the boomers these days...
FDR on the list and also not a fan, due to his major expansions of government basically everywhere plus his attempt to pack the court.
@RobertGrulerEsq Wasn't there a dire need of new money flowing in at the time?
Also what do you thinka bout James Polk
Except tycoons had Wilson's head over a barrel to implement the Federal Reserve. Greatest crime against Americans in our history and he had no choice. But for that, the rest would have been moot.
Gypsy wdym?
You are talking about new money, I interpreted this as monetary policy in response to the Depression?
nah but like
why would they implement a new tax
if there was no need for money
people would surely be against that
The need for money is inexhaustible.
So it’s not a good way to evaluate whether taxation is good or not lol
The need for money is inexhaustible because it's not a zero sum game, by design. Itnhas been that way since 1913.
we were still on the gold standard in the 30s
Economics is not a zero sum game regardless of any central bank.