Honestly I do think they added a younger woman as VP so they could finally get their first female president, I'm sure Joe Biden isn't long for this world. He's coming on 80 years old, he doesn't appear to be unhealthy physically, but mentally is another question of course.

Most of my problems with Trump were on the executive side. Only tax rewards for wealthy people was legislated, so I'm good.

I don't think it's the end of America though like some people seem to.

People said the same thing about the end of the country four years ago. It's just hysteria.

@GregInHouston2 i mean he is clearly deteriorating. But i dont think people will be so happy just replacing the president that people voted for. Unless he is seriously incapacitated or dies i think he will serve his term and then transfer the reigns

Democrats know that and arent going to replace him unless something happens

The concerning thing to me is the amount of "lids" that his campaign called.

It raises a big red flag to me.

The theory that Biden is a Trojan horse to get Harris in the white house sounds pretty far fetched imo.

Never said he was a trojan horse, don't think that was originally the intention when the primaries happened.

But I have a feeling that's why his VP was picked to be who it was.

@Maw they called so many lids cause they didnt want him gaffing so much. I dont think it was for anything serious or medical

It's simply he's more prone to gaffing because he's older and more forgetful. Very simple answer.

He's not young, 80 is a very vulnerable age.

This is beyond your average life expectancy.

It's not over 80 yet? Seems like it would be.

He's also in very high-stress positions, despite his advanced age.

No, the opioid epidemic really tanked the average IIRC.

Lol sounds about right. He's outside of that though. Plus he does have better medical care than you or I could ever afford.

Of course.

Pay to play.

But you can only do so much with stress and age.

Fortunately I don't think he has many heart issues at his age, as he's still looking fairly fit.

I wonder how much invested in the actual struggle they are. Maybe it's stress free when they aren't on camera because they are all sociopaths.

Naw. Look at Obama's hair after 4-8 years.

He even made comments about how stressful the job was.

Yeah Obama was fried. But Biden seems more aloof to me than Obama. I guess we'll see.

For sure he's more aloof, but I'm sure it still stresses him out, I do believe he's empathetic.

He at least bothers to mimic empathy, at the very least. I just hope this gets put to bed definitively, either way.

Me too.

I hope we don't have another 4 years of refusing election results.

But that's honestly a pipedream.

Things are too divided at the moment.

Even if Biden goes through, they need to litigate every last detail so we don't have to do this again.

The last 4 years of investigations were honestly a massive money sink which could have gone into something better in my honest opinion.

The biggest plus side I see to this, and I try to remain optimistic about it, is that I won't have to hear about Trump every single day.

Trump fatigue is very, very real.

There is already a leftist counter-conspiracy being loaded, insofar as it's harder for Russians to hack paper ballots. That's how crazy this gets. It needs to stop.

I don't think it's fair to compare the dispute over this election to the 4 years of unfounded Russia allegations... and if there's any serious evidence to back up everybody's suspicions well.... disenfranchising voters like this would be far more damaging to the country

I don't have any evidence that there was large-scale voter fraud yet.

Amounts of fraud that would actually change the result of the election.