@Maw they called so many lids cause they didnt want him gaffing so much. I dont think it was for anything serious or medical

It's simply he's more prone to gaffing because he's older and more forgetful. Very simple answer.

He's not young, 80 is a very vulnerable age.

This is beyond your average life expectancy.

It's not over 80 yet? Seems like it would be.

He's also in very high-stress positions, despite his advanced age.

No, the opioid epidemic really tanked the average IIRC.

Lol sounds about right. He's outside of that though. Plus he does have better medical care than you or I could ever afford.

Of course.

Pay to play.

But you can only do so much with stress and age.

Fortunately I don't think he has many heart issues at his age, as he's still looking fairly fit.

I wonder how much invested in the actual struggle they are. Maybe it's stress free when they aren't on camera because they are all sociopaths.

Naw. Look at Obama's hair after 4-8 years.

He even made comments about how stressful the job was.

Yeah Obama was fried. But Biden seems more aloof to me than Obama. I guess we'll see.

For sure he's more aloof, but I'm sure it still stresses him out, I do believe he's empathetic.

He at least bothers to mimic empathy, at the very least. I just hope this gets put to bed definitively, either way.

Me too.

I hope we don't have another 4 years of refusing election results.

But that's honestly a pipedream.

Things are too divided at the moment.

Even if Biden goes through, they need to litigate every last detail so we don't have to do this again.

The last 4 years of investigations were honestly a massive money sink which could have gone into something better in my honest opinion.

The biggest plus side I see to this, and I try to remain optimistic about it, is that I won't have to hear about Trump every single day.

Trump fatigue is very, very real.

There is already a leftist counter-conspiracy being loaded, insofar as it's harder for Russians to hack paper ballots. That's how crazy this gets. It needs to stop.

I don't think it's fair to compare the dispute over this election to the 4 years of unfounded Russia allegations... and if there's any serious evidence to back up everybody's suspicions well.... disenfranchising voters like this would be far more damaging to the country

I don't have any evidence that there was large-scale voter fraud yet.

Amounts of fraud that would actually change the result of the election.

I watched Ben Shapiro. He articulated it well, like most things he does.

i think there's enough circumstantial evidence to require a serious investigation and i don't think you should be getting tired of it just yet

I agree, instances of fraud should be investigated.

But we also cannot just sit here without any evidence of election fraud on a scale large enough to change the results of the election. This litigation could take years.

What are we supposed to do? Sit in limbo for 2 years?

The larger volume of anecdotal claims rely on no knowledge of the controls that are in place. Sheer volume of assertions does not overwhelming circumstantial evidence make.

Remember how many wrongful allegations of sexual misconduct that were levied at Trump, if you want an example of what Zulu is talking about.

Yes, everyone jumped on that train. They couldn't all be false, right? Lol

fair point but the scale of mail in voting this year gave them plenty of oppurtunity and there are serious flaws in some states election security....

Not saying he wasn't a sexual scumbag but you have to bring actual evidence, not just a heap accusations.

honestly it feels like they telegraphed their intentions early on