E.g: Protestors from Portland do have a form of standing for filing a lawsuit against the government because there are actual injuries (physical) that occurred.

It doesn't get into the details of if the use of force was justified, that happens later.

It's a matter of if there is any sort of real injury.

Just a little bit? yea you can say allot. end result is the win just goes to more socialist type of economy higher taxes, pay more for Smokes, Gas so yett the people get to pay more etc etc.

That type of damage cannot be proven for yet another lawsuit. This is being more of a Philosophical argument then Case law. so i can stop i think you know what i mean.

Basically I think you get what I'm saying, yeah.

For sure @Maw #Respect

Evening?

Evening!

deep thinkers i feel like the dumb blonde here🤔

You're fine. Things just play out here. It's not a typical echo chamber.

I got a legal question about statutory laws. I looked up the legal definition of voter in my state, and it said a voter is a legal voter. How in the world does that define anything? A dog is a legal dog?

nice change

Which is largely why I prefer debating here than the typical places I'm used to debating.

Conflicting views are hard to find on most other platforms, as algorithms keep everyone in their special little boxes.

There are no conflicting views to mine. Mine are right 🙃

I find it all very fascinating. I rarely have much to contribute except encouragement to make me understand what people think.

Agreeing is an entirely separate matter.

I don't generally become a contrarian and debate people I agree with.

Also, YAY SLIDES!

I have the problem of having grown up in a family of librarians, teachers, and ministers. And not having taken a single American lit course until I got to college. I speak the same words as everyone else, it just isn't the same language.

Yis.

true but it is nice to see people getting involved..never would have seen this response a few year back

This is almost like 110-115 years ago. It was remarked how Americans would get off work, go home and change out of their work clothes into a suit, and hit the pub to debate politics.

I don't think I act as contrarian with people with whom I agree.

I do if they misrepresent something on the other side.

That's about it.

It's common they do that though.

Straw-manning hurts all causes.

Can you always tell a straw-man from a different perspective?

lol..the numbers will get larger here as this moves forward

Unless you acknowledge your straw man and its purpose. That's a thing.

That's the goal, @osok !

That's usually called taking things to the extreme.

@Whithers yes, if it's your own position they are misrepresenting.

reason im here i like what your selling

In between black and white there are 10,000 shades of color, but they still fall to one side or the other.

Or if they are misrepresenting something that was agreed upon as someone else's position.

I like to understand the actual arguments of my opposition.

So I don't strawman them.

So I don't take their position for an extreme position.