Message from @Whithers

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2020-11-17 03:09:53 UTC  

As they don't tend to last very long.

2020-11-17 03:10:00 UTC  

there to much bs oversight tranpair ect

2020-11-17 03:10:11 UTC  

And it takes a very brave individual to be a good cop during these sorts of times.

2020-11-17 03:10:17 UTC  

Yes you are. You can't make snap judgments. And thats what you are doing

2020-11-17 03:10:23 UTC  

We're not.

2020-11-17 03:10:34 UTC  

I've made no judgments of your sister-in-law.

2020-11-17 03:10:40 UTC  

No, really we're not.

2020-11-17 03:10:47 UTC  

Like for real.

2020-11-17 03:10:52 UTC  

Seriously

2020-11-17 03:10:59 UTC  

I call bs. Because a good cop bad cop .there is no test for that.

2020-11-17 03:11:05 UTC  

look very to fix first min of batch degree to even apply

2020-11-17 03:11:35 UTC  

There is a test for that, it's the legal system.

2020-11-17 03:11:44 UTC  

Oh but there is a test. Just like criminal and not criminal, which is a judgement made every second of every day.

2020-11-17 03:11:47 UTC  

It's entirely why defense attorneys exist.

2020-11-17 03:11:48 UTC  

A degree doesn't mean diddly in determining good from evil

2020-11-17 03:11:49 UTC  

@Maw Decades ago, when I was in M.I. the Russians claimed to be monitoring every single telephone conversation in the US. Of course they didn't. There wasn't enough man hours in the entire USSR to manage that. It is the same in Policing. We don't have enough man hours in the nation to monitor 55,000,000 interactions a year.

2020-11-17 03:11:53 UTC  

2 reward ones for turing in the bads ones

2020-11-17 03:12:11 UTC  

Agreed, Whithers.

2020-11-17 03:12:17 UTC  

Just IMO police need to learn how to Police themselves 1st then help not hurt the public. More respect will earn them more safe job. again just 1 mans Opinion.

2020-11-17 03:12:40 UTC  

3 training training training

2020-11-17 03:13:02 UTC  

Another problem we have is the police feeling marginalized, targeted, and lacking sufficient manpower to do the job.

2020-11-17 03:13:27 UTC  

well that because the system is broke

2020-11-17 03:13:40 UTC  

Cops get paid poorly for a job that is 1) Not fun 2) Generally speaking, unrewarding unless you have a particular mindset ahead of time 3) Dangerous at times.

2020-11-17 03:14:00 UTC  

Give me a break. I went fap to military police and that's all we did was train train train. Blaming a system is showing your ineptitude. I'm out

2020-11-17 03:14:45 UTC  

they make $$ ..you need smart officer the days of kick some ass is over

2020-11-17 03:14:47 UTC  

Last I looked at the numbers, in comparison to other countries: France has 340 officers per 100k pop, at roughly 1 officer per 1⅛ square mile. Germany has 381 officers per 100k pop, at 2⅓ officers per square mile covered. The US has 238 officers per 100k pop, at 1 officer per 5.5 square miles. We have higher rates of crime because we lack a deterring police presence. We only keep enough police to make arrests, and obviously not enough to avoid the police being overwhelmed by any real social upheaval - as has been recently demonstrated. To have the deterring coverage of France to Germany by population, we would need 336,600 to 471,900 more officers. To have that coverage by square mile, we would need between 2,589,482 to 8,073,665 more officers.

2020-11-17 03:15:00 UTC  

They don't make very good money, Osok.

2020-11-17 03:15:12 UTC  

Unless you're a commissioner or on the force for a decade or two.

2020-11-17 03:15:30 UTC  

wow how much schooling did you take

2020-11-17 03:15:32 UTC  

Your median officer salary is really low.

2020-11-17 03:15:55 UTC  

I didnt see Blame put anywhere Humm no advice how to fix it then @mtpockets59 ???

2020-11-17 03:15:58 UTC  

Germany also has a huge training program. I think it's like, what? 2-3 years?

2020-11-17 03:16:05 UTC  

@osok Me or Maw?

2020-11-17 03:16:13 UTC  

Where in the US it's more like 3-6 months.

2020-11-17 03:16:23 UTC  

The turnover rate is likely much higher.

2020-11-17 03:16:47 UTC  

so pay better you need better smart officers. look too be a fed angent you need a bach degree

2020-11-17 03:17:11 UTC  

whitherws sorry

2020-11-17 03:17:42 UTC  

We consider college training, which I don't. And frankly, I am not sure one can be trained sufficiently to pull a dead child out of a trash can or refrigerator that was improperly secured.

2020-11-17 03:17:59 UTC  

name one police dept where that a requirment

2020-11-17 03:18:07 UTC  

Here in detroit you only had to be able to do 60 pushups in under 1 min and that would get you in but that was back in the day...

2020-11-17 03:18:52 UTC  

i went to school for CJ only few years but i know more then most officers do