There is also a lack of police accountability.

I have a sister in law who is a orange county sheriff. She puts up with so much danger it is unbelievable. I was a combat Marine and i would be more frightened in her job then in combat.

No one is arguing good cops aren't heros.

Quite the opposite.

Good cops in this system should be revered.

As they don't tend to last very long.

there to much bs oversight tranpair ect

And it takes a very brave individual to be a good cop during these sorts of times.

Yes you are. You can't make snap judgments. And thats what you are doing

We're not.

I've made no judgments of your sister-in-law.

No, really we're not.

Like for real.

Seriously

I call bs. Because a good cop bad cop .there is no test for that.

look very to fix first min of batch degree to even apply

There is a test for that, it's the legal system.

Oh but there is a test. Just like criminal and not criminal, which is a judgement made every second of every day.

It's entirely why defense attorneys exist.

A degree doesn't mean diddly in determining good from evil

@Maw Decades ago, when I was in M.I. the Russians claimed to be monitoring every single telephone conversation in the US. Of course they didn't. There wasn't enough man hours in the entire USSR to manage that. It is the same in Policing. We don't have enough man hours in the nation to monitor 55,000,000 interactions a year.

2 reward ones for turing in the bads ones

Agreed, Whithers.

Just IMO police need to learn how to Police themselves 1st then help not hurt the public. More respect will earn them more safe job. again just 1 mans Opinion.

3 training training training

Another problem we have is the police feeling marginalized, targeted, and lacking sufficient manpower to do the job.

well that because the system is broke

Cops get paid poorly for a job that is 1) Not fun 2) Generally speaking, unrewarding unless you have a particular mindset ahead of time 3) Dangerous at times.

Give me a break. I went fap to military police and that's all we did was train train train. Blaming a system is showing your ineptitude. I'm out

they make $$ ..you need smart officer the days of kick some ass is over

Last I looked at the numbers, in comparison to other countries: France has 340 officers per 100k pop, at roughly 1 officer per 1⅛ square mile. Germany has 381 officers per 100k pop, at 2⅓ officers per square mile covered. The US has 238 officers per 100k pop, at 1 officer per 5.5 square miles. We have higher rates of crime because we lack a deterring police presence. We only keep enough police to make arrests, and obviously not enough to avoid the police being overwhelmed by any real social upheaval - as has been recently demonstrated. To have the deterring coverage of France to Germany by population, we would need 336,600 to 471,900 more officers. To have that coverage by square mile, we would need between 2,589,482 to 8,073,665 more officers.

They don't make very good money, Osok.

Unless you're a commissioner or on the force for a decade or two.

wow how much schooling did you take

Your median officer salary is really low.

I didnt see Blame put anywhere Humm no advice how to fix it then @mtpockets59 ???

Germany also has a huge training program. I think it's like, what? 2-3 years?

@osok Me or Maw?

Where in the US it's more like 3-6 months.

The turnover rate is likely much higher.

so pay better you need better smart officers. look too be a fed angent you need a bach degree