I get it

It's not a realistic argument

But it feels good to say it.

the spirit of it makes sense

if you dont have a stake you shouldnt get to make decisions

Yes, skin in the game.

you should read starship troopers

@Jorgen Johnson points out the rub, though

lol

@RobertGrulerEsq However, while we don't pay taxes, our Soc Sec is supposed to be reduced by the amount of taxes we would have had to pay.

the way the government is run in that book is interesting

I've seen the movie

the book is actually a bit more intellectual

BRCC last broadcast I saw they were outlining how they would do a comedy movie about what govt would be like if they were in charge.

Yes @Whithers I heard from some financial people that they may want people to pay taxes on the PPP loan, that was given to people, in the amount that it was forgiven.

Like with student loans. If suddenly $50k is discharged /forgiven, you are paying taxes on that gift, in all likelihood.

well you normally have to pay taxes on forgiven debt i believe

@ImNotGas, you just advanced to level 4!

Some of that was deferred and some wasn't. I was not affected so I didn't track it much.

Yes but they didn't force your business closed, is the difference.

true

I have agreed with Shapiro that the govt. owes comp. because it took people's right to work away.

@RobertGrulerEsq would you agree with the opposite? Illigal immigrants that pay taxes get to vote?

Illegal immagrants should be removed. So, no, paying taxes is not sufficient.

Great question

I think there's a good argument there

Or 14-17 year-olds that pay taxes vote?

Ok, then lets say legal immigrants on visas

You want people with skin in the game

SPent a lot of my childhood around illegals. My foster brother came here illegal. Took us 22 years to get him naturalized. I understand a need for reform. But neither party cares.

@Whithers, you just advanced to level 12!

I'm in the voter integrity camp

i dont blame illegals for coming here, i blame our government for allowing it

and not prosecuting the people who hire them

Voting locally as they do for school boards? Maybe. Voting to determine our national leaders, legislators, and courts? no.

Facial recognition software should be used to vote. Advancing technology means we have to do more to keep our elections fair.

why dont we just use paper

My step mother was brought here by a church group to bolster their rolls when they would talk about needing donations. It took her years to escape the sweatshop they kept her in. Then Reagan was going to take her two children born here away and send herbac to Mexico. It is complicated.

with a receipt

@aiva I'm for raising the standards on voting, generally. the tax idea is of course a non-starter. but I get concerned about people voting for more and more taxes without having to pay for the increases.

@Jorgen Johnson So, dox everyone who votes for their opposition.