Message from @ImNotGas

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2020-11-27 21:35:28 UTC  

hand recount when only 70% of the ballots are found?

2020-11-27 21:35:45 UTC  

I can't say anything about that kind of hardware, but on a normal hard drive, "deleting" something only hides it from view and still keeps a trace./shadow of the file on the disc.

2020-11-27 21:35:53 UTC  

i think it was michigan where they said only 70% of the ballots are recountable or something

2020-11-27 21:36:05 UTC  

One of the deficiencies in TX was that Dominion couldn't use non-sequential vote identifiers. They didn't want people to be able to figure out how someone voted because they knew the order that people voted on that machine. Having sequential identifiers makes it harder to replace paper votes.

2020-11-27 21:36:14 UTC  

it's why some people tend to destroy old hard drives instead of selling them.

2020-11-27 21:36:33 UTC  

@Adam135 if it doesnt log it in the first place theres nothing to delete

2020-11-27 21:37:02 UTC  

if its purpose built software it can obfuscate anything

2020-11-27 21:37:12 UTC  

cant really know without examining source code

2020-11-27 21:38:03 UTC  

I'd like to see someone explain source code to a judge lmao

2020-11-27 21:38:10 UTC  

lol

2020-11-27 21:38:12 UTC  

The finding in TX was that the data was in the system log, but not in the Dominion application log that the election officials had access to. As a result, it took an administrator type to dump and sift thru the system log to find any of those types of events. The data is there, just not readily available.

2020-11-27 21:38:42 UTC  

It's in the system logs.

2020-11-27 21:38:57 UTC  

@TaLoN132 per finding in tx on a version that is not the same as the current

2020-11-27 21:39:51 UTC  

im not saying the machines are or arent purpose built for fraud

2020-11-27 21:40:07 UTC  

i'm saying it is impossible to know without having the source code of the version used on election night

2020-11-27 21:40:18 UTC  

Twitter is really getting sloppy, blocking links to Powell's lawsuit and suspending the account of Doug Mastriano. It doesn't look good.

2020-11-27 21:40:24 UTC  

@ImNotGas This was last year - v5.5A - if that helps. It was a deficiency identified from their evaluation of v5.5. Dominion was not able to make the change in time. What version is MI using?

2020-11-27 21:40:29 UTC  

twitter doesnt care

2020-11-27 21:40:43 UTC  

if they didn't, they wouldn't lift a finger to begin with.

2020-11-27 21:40:43 UTC  

@TaLoN132 didnt they say it got patched the night before election?

2020-11-27 21:41:11 UTC  

@Adam135 i mean they dont care if they look bad, if trump doesnt somehow pull a win out of this they will double down on their efforts

2020-11-27 21:41:41 UTC  

I've long since quit twitter and moved to parler

2020-11-27 21:42:13 UTC  

@ImNotGas I have heard several rumors. There were some accounts of machines that were not working that may have received a patch to get them back up and running. Whether it was a new patch or someone had forgotten to patch those machine before, I don't know.

2020-11-27 21:42:18 UTC  

I know people give it flak for "breeding right wing cultism" but parler is pretty much indifferent to all opinions

2020-11-27 21:42:37 UTC  

I stopped using google as well and only resorted to DuckDuckGo these last few weeks

2020-11-27 21:42:57 UTC  

parler itself doesnt do that but since its basically the refugee center for the right it becomes an echo chamber

2020-11-27 21:43:26 UTC  

just as twitter and reddit become echo chambers by banning and minimizing the right

2020-11-27 21:44:23 UTC  

I was always curious as to how an anti-trust bill would be applied against Google, Facebook and Twitter, but I think the only real alternative is competition

2020-11-27 21:45:33 UTC  

Google has made a business on collecting and selling private user data whilst DuckDuckGo doesn't, something Google can't compete with in terms of ethical policies.

2020-11-27 21:46:10 UTC  

I think Twitter's mistake was not tagging claims about Biden's victory with a note that stated "Despite Biden being the projected winner, Trump has not conceded the race and the projected results are being contested in court". I don't see the harm in tagging both sides simarly.

2020-11-27 21:46:33 UTC  

@ImNotGas there's a big difference though, these right-wing echo chambers are emergent as a product of the crowding out in big tech, whereas big tech engineered an extremely narrow outlook by top-down moderation and censorship

2020-11-27 21:46:38 UTC  

It doesn't fit twitter's interests @TaLoN132

2020-11-27 21:47:09 UTC  

@nachik theres a difference in the cause but the effect

2020-11-27 21:47:09 UTC  

@ImNotGas, you just advanced to level 7!

2020-11-27 21:47:36 UTC  

believe me, I'm starting off as a comp-sci major and everyone in my class is pretty extreme left in terms of policy agenda, many of them view the 1st amendment as a weapon

2020-11-27 21:47:38 UTC  

if you build a platform now and you allow for a wide range of views, it will be dominated by the right

2020-11-27 21:48:01 UTC  

right, because the left have their home and have no reason to get on the new platform

2020-11-27 21:48:12 UTC  

Or they didn't think about it. It's just CYA. All outlets should have been doing both or neither, in my opinion.

2020-11-27 21:48:32 UTC  

you accept them but you cannot force them to come

2020-11-27 21:48:37 UTC  

@TaLoN132 they should have been doing neither, if they want to avoid section 230

2020-11-27 21:49:20 UTC  

Those that believe Biden won already consider the claims unsubstantiated... and those who believe Trump won, only get triggered by it. It serves no purpose.