Bussanet.

Well, obviously Robert has whatever was left of my humor because it is pretty much gone here.

well humor is hard to convey in text

Yes and no, it's definitely not easy.

I find Zulu hilarious most of the time.

and writing /s is like explaining the joke, making it not funny

@ImNotGas, you just advanced to level 9!

The squirrel barked at the cookie for being too awkward for it to carry up the tree.

@Whithers Thanks for the clarification. There are many things that the gov't does overstep when it comes to various licensing. A licence/permit, according to Black's Law Dictionary, in simplest terms, is gov't permission to do some act that is overwise illegal or unpermitted. Using this as an argument, that would make something as simple as marriage unlawful unless permitted by the gov't. I see this as overstepping boundaries.

okay I'm back past where I first caught the livestream ... yeah 48 to 50 minute mark is just pure gold ... that said if you're in the jury box at the end the judge will remind you that what the lawyers said is not evidence ... the witness testimony and exhibits are evidence but not what the lawyers said

still those lawyers sure can focus your mind on what's important within the evidence

With the above example of marriage, that would make the State a party in the marriage contract. With the State being a party, it allows them to have a say in one's marriage.

Marriage licensing is unlawful because it violates the 1st Amendment. The state has no authority to license a sacrament of the church.

you can still get married in a church without a license though cant you?

Trying to get a friend in here. But I think I failed to invite him properly. grrr.

No, the State will not recognize the marriage as being legal, as far as I know.

> @Zuluzeit you need to step it up
@ImNotGas Lol I'm just treading water. I've stepped on too many 'Soros shill' landmines lately.

That would not stop the license itself from being illegal by the state.

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@Bey Positive rights are rights that are created by statute/case law that impute an obligation on others for example, a right to health care, means that in order for you to exercise your right, you can impose on the state via taxes and or regulations that would require another person to provide health care to you whether they want to or not. A negative right i.e., freedom of speech is a right that requires no threat of force against another person in order to exercise. Another way to put it, you have the freedom to seek healthcare from any source you see fit = negative right vs. you have the right to obtain healthcare from a government approved source = a positive right.

best gommie

Hahaha what's wrong with Rutherford B. Hayes? Greatest president ever. @Maw

There is nothing a marriage license does that cannot be determined from other govt. records.

@Zuluzeit I can spot the Marx a mile away.

Wait what

It's the mustache.

Lmao kinda distinctive

I would argue that nothing feeds as many divorce lawyers as the state issuing marriage licenses for a few dollars and possibly a blood test

im all for getting rid of marriage licenses

@Zuluzeit just be glad your avatar isn't Rasputin, overwise some may mistake you for Jack Dorsey.

me too but I'm not telling my wife

it wouldve gotten rid of the whole gay marriage argument if everyone just does civil unions anyway

yo

I was about to play around with putting Trotsky as my avatar and claim it was Teddy Roosevelt if you kept going down that road, Zulu.

@Bey hahahaha that'll be next

The license originated as a way to prevent those "dirty men" from giving their innocent new brides STDs. Now, it is a violation of privacy to tell the prospective partner they are marrying someone that could kill them with sex.

"It's just young uncle sam."

@Maw I would pay super good money to see that.

we should have divorce licenses not marriage licenses

Lmao

make people live together in misery like god intended