That would not stop the license itself from being illegal by the state.

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@Bey Positive rights are rights that are created by statute/case law that impute an obligation on others for example, a right to health care, means that in order for you to exercise your right, you can impose on the state via taxes and or regulations that would require another person to provide health care to you whether they want to or not. A negative right i.e., freedom of speech is a right that requires no threat of force against another person in order to exercise. Another way to put it, you have the freedom to seek healthcare from any source you see fit = negative right vs. you have the right to obtain healthcare from a government approved source = a positive right.

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Hahaha what's wrong with Rutherford B. Hayes? Greatest president ever. @Maw

There is nothing a marriage license does that cannot be determined from other govt. records.

@Zuluzeit I can spot the Marx a mile away.

Wait what

It's the mustache.

Lmao kinda distinctive

I would argue that nothing feeds as many divorce lawyers as the state issuing marriage licenses for a few dollars and possibly a blood test

im all for getting rid of marriage licenses

@Zuluzeit just be glad your avatar isn't Rasputin, overwise some may mistake you for Jack Dorsey.

me too but I'm not telling my wife

it wouldve gotten rid of the whole gay marriage argument if everyone just does civil unions anyway

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I was about to play around with putting Trotsky as my avatar and claim it was Teddy Roosevelt if you kept going down that road, Zulu.

@Bey hahahaha that'll be next

The license originated as a way to prevent those "dirty men" from giving their innocent new brides STDs. Now, it is a violation of privacy to tell the prospective partner they are marrying someone that could kill them with sex.

"It's just young uncle sam."

@Maw I would pay super good money to see that.

we should have divorce licenses not marriage licenses

Lmao

make people live together in misery like god intended

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Among the Maya if you wanted a divorce you had to live for 1 year with your in-laws before it could happen.

I imagine that dissuaded many divorces.

If the gov't can issue permits/licensing to allow one to "legally" exercise Constitutionally protected Rights for one (2nd Amendment) what will stop them from issuing permits/licensing for any of the other Constitutionally protected Rights. There is nothing that will stop them...

"oh woops your son died in a hunting accident we totally didnt revenge kill him

@ImNotGas totally agree as far as the state is concerned, a marriage is nothing more than a contract between two consenting parties. If you can register a business Partnership with the Secretary of State, why not just make corporate laws for a Domestic Partnership. Leave "marriages" to spiritual organizations to define as they see fit?

@Turd Ferguson preciesly why i tell people im against gay marriage, watch them freak out, then explain my position with a shit eating grin

Marriage originated in Genesis and is a religious union between two parties. State licensed marriages are a contract between two people and the government, composed of three parties.

Disappearing to catch up on life with someone.

Having the government as a party in the marriage gives the gov't authority in the marriage and all that derives from it, including any offspring. This is what gives them the authority to take children from parents and raise them as they see fit.

@ImNotGas lol have you ever heard someone say the government should do __________ and then ask them to explain how to coordinate everything needed to make a pencil?

@Turd Ferguson, you just advanced to level 2!

Q. *What is an elephant?* A. A mouse, designed by commitee and built to gov't specifications.

@Turd Ferguson i like how everyone says we should do x because sweden does it

like... brazil does the same thing, and our version is going to be closer to brazils than swedens

Many people do not realize that the Swedish model is the nation is, economically, capitalist and distribution is socialist. They tend to leave out the economic part of the "equation"

we should handle covid like sweden does.