Message from @MatiLuc

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2020-12-03 18:25:40 UTC  

Not much blood was seen, but I honestly can't say, as your chest is a space which can fill with blood before you even know you're bleeding badly.

2020-12-03 18:26:05 UTC  

the only situation where you bleed outwards, is if the artery cant bleed in.

2020-12-03 18:26:23 UTC  

Kyle was using specialty SD ammunition, it was rapid-fragmentation. Likely special JSP or special JHP.

2020-12-03 18:26:36 UTC  

I once had a man delivered to my care with BP 50/0.

2020-12-03 18:26:49 UTC  

His entire volum of blood was in his abdomen under pressure.

2020-12-03 18:27:26 UTC  

So I don't expect tumbling was an issue.

2020-12-03 18:27:34 UTC  

Rather the rapid expansion was.

2020-12-03 18:27:53 UTC  

well, untill the .223 projectile hits bone, it tumbles.

2020-12-03 18:28:07 UTC  

Again, JSP/JHP ammo.

2020-12-03 18:28:12 UTC  

I know.

2020-12-03 18:28:50 UTC  

They begin expanding and fragmenting around an inch into ballistics gel alone.

2020-12-03 18:29:03 UTC  

which is not what your lungs are made of.

2020-12-03 18:29:38 UTC  

But you might be right. I havent seen civilian .223 cases.

2020-12-03 18:29:49 UTC  

I think this is a conversation best for private, as it's rather morbid.

2020-12-03 18:30:23 UTC  

If so, i apologize. It is forensic medicine/EM to me. A profession.

2020-12-03 18:30:56 UTC  

It's quite alright! I just don't think people would want to stumble into these sorts of conversations, I imagine many people get physically ill thinking about this stuff in detail.

2020-12-03 18:31:48 UTC  

Thanks! I have no idea where that line goes.

2020-12-03 18:34:52 UTC  

Kyle missed d head.. probably was making sure he die

2020-12-03 18:35:54 UTC  

Normally, in that situation, you are not aware of when you hit or not. There is no text above the targets head.

2020-12-03 18:36:41 UTC  

(but, Maybe we should observe Maws guidance, here, sir.)

2020-12-03 18:39:22 UTC  

There was alot of blood.. by his stomach and by back of his head the exhibit pictures they painted over d blood.

2020-12-03 18:53:52 UTC  

What? No they didn't.

2020-12-03 18:54:46 UTC  

Also doc is correct, have you shot a gun before? It's not easy to tell where you're hitting.

2020-12-03 18:58:15 UTC  

There is a lot of visual noise at the barrel when you fire.

2020-12-03 18:59:07 UTC  

Expanding gases, sometimes muzzle flashes.

2020-12-03 19:00:59 UTC  

Also you're like, right next to the person and likely aren't aiming down the sight fully.

2020-12-03 19:02:22 UTC  

This assumption that Kyle was clear-headed, methodical and basically the terminator is wonky.

2020-12-03 19:03:00 UTC  

I can't fathom the level of bias it comes to reach that sort of conclusion.

2020-12-03 21:28:33 UTC  

@Maw Inexperience with fear of life situations.

2020-12-03 21:30:08 UTC  

The difference between how people think they will preform in high risk situations and how they end up preforming is usually massive and very often the topic of Debrief and PTSD-therapy.

2020-12-03 21:31:25 UTC  

The male brain goes from "I got this!" to "Lord, get me out of this!" in less than a second.

2020-12-03 21:33:01 UTC  

Especially in close proximity.

2020-12-03 21:41:15 UTC  

Absolutely! You can have years and years of training. And be caught off guard, and make a mistake or an adjustment you didn't have time to account for.
And adrenaline is another key issue many non experienced shooters don't take into consideration

2020-12-03 21:45:36 UTC  
2020-12-03 21:46:01 UTC  

In the video, YOU SEE THEY DIDN'T STOP COUNTING

2020-12-03 21:46:15 UTC  

yep

2020-12-03 21:46:20 UTC  

i put them up in new submissions channel

2020-12-03 21:47:16 UTC  

But no guys, they were just uploading! Can you tell the difference between counting and uploading!

2020-12-03 21:47:36 UTC  

just counting mysterious suitcase ballots!

2020-12-03 21:47:38 UTC  

nothing to see here

2020-12-03 21:48:32 UTC  

No, your evidence measuring updated counts multiple times isn't evidence of counting