oh, cool!

can you link them to me?

I just saw the referate. Never the actual report.

It didn't say what the C.O.D was, or which impact I don't recall. I can get you the relevant text @Doc

If you have the report, I would very much like that.

(Also people do live for extended periods after being shot in the head frequently, @MatiLuc ) Don't believe what you hear on TV all the time.

Though it depends on your definition of live, I suppose.

@MatiLuc Combat medicine rule of the thumb: shot through one hemisphere = red, shot through both = blue/black/red-green

@Maw Id say that is a death from bloodloss.

large arteries in lung, liver, pelvis, and the .223 is known to both tumble and flower (not same as expand) in terminal ballistics.

Not much blood was seen, but I honestly can't say, as your chest is a space which can fill with blood before you even know you're bleeding badly.

the only situation where you bleed outwards, is if the artery cant bleed in.

Kyle was using specialty SD ammunition, it was rapid-fragmentation. Likely special JSP or special JHP.

I once had a man delivered to my care with BP 50/0.

His entire volum of blood was in his abdomen under pressure.

So I don't expect tumbling was an issue.

Rather the rapid expansion was.

well, untill the .223 projectile hits bone, it tumbles.

Again, JSP/JHP ammo.

I know.

They begin expanding and fragmenting around an inch into ballistics gel alone.

which is not what your lungs are made of.

But you might be right. I havent seen civilian .223 cases.

I think this is a conversation best for private, as it's rather morbid.

If so, i apologize. It is forensic medicine/EM to me. A profession.

It's quite alright! I just don't think people would want to stumble into these sorts of conversations, I imagine many people get physically ill thinking about this stuff in detail.

Thanks! I have no idea where that line goes.

Kyle missed d head.. probably was making sure he die

Normally, in that situation, you are not aware of when you hit or not. There is no text above the targets head.

(but, Maybe we should observe Maws guidance, here, sir.)

There was alot of blood.. by his stomach and by back of his head the exhibit pictures they painted over d blood.

What? No they didn't.

Also doc is correct, have you shot a gun before? It's not easy to tell where you're hitting.

There is a lot of visual noise at the barrel when you fire.

Expanding gases, sometimes muzzle flashes.

Also you're like, right next to the person and likely aren't aiming down the sight fully.

This assumption that Kyle was clear-headed, methodical and basically the terminator is wonky.

I can't fathom the level of bias it comes to reach that sort of conclusion.

@Maw Inexperience with fear of life situations.

The difference between how people think they will preform in high risk situations and how they end up preforming is usually massive and very often the topic of Debrief and PTSD-therapy.