Message from @nord
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@The Lion Trying to force people into thinking the way you do about things, especially with regards to direct action - "read, this book - watch this video", that stuff often has the opposite effect.
haha is it really that surprising? I don't shop at any of the stores with fancy brand names because they're too expensive
One of the stores I shop at is employee owned, and the other too are irrelevant small chains that have better things to do than worry about politics
Well I mean she’s interested @Papa Pizzagate
reposting this since the topic is shopping
I’m not forcing her here, it’s just I don’t really know how to explain traditional values to a woman.
At least not in detail
@Jacob It is to me. Even local chains with 3 stores usually have posters up with the usual garbage on it. I mostly go to local butcher shops and bakeries these days.
Sometimes I miss ben and jerrys
oh well I guess it depends where you are
in Seattle there's a gay flag in every window
shit, there was even a smoke shop with a "we refuse fascism bla bla bla" sign
I'm in Eastern Washington, which is red, though
so that might be why the local chains don't bother
I work next to a hair dresser with a HUGE sign that says "proudly LGBT owned"
@The Lion frame it more like relationship goals. "Wouldn't it be great if we get to the point when we have children, that you don't have to work. You could stay home with the kids and take care of the home... We could have you know, an Irish setter or something, a property with a few acres, maybe some veggies and a little herb garden, we could even raise bees."
If she is already interested such ideas would probably appeal to her
Do you live in a blue part of Ohio?
that might be why
"Plus, you know...we want to have a couple of kids, so it would be *pretty difficult* for the both of us to work AND raise good children" @The Lion
I live in a big city, but the red suburb I'm from has the same problem
is the county blue?
No
huh weird
I’ve accentuated the importance of a homemaker before, she’s interested.
maybe you just notice this stuff more than I do
I might be desensitized from all the time I spent in Seattle
@The Lion I think there is a lot you can do, just with your own behavior, without pressuring her
Perhaps that’s a better way than trying to read some philosophical crap
We were 98% white a few years back and were pretty aggressively targeted for the past few years
I'm also engaged, and the dynamic with my fiance shifted as I became more traditional
@The Lion You might get something out of red pill married forums like on reddit, or the High T marriage blog
and of course there are things you can do yourself, like saving and investing to enable a traditional lifestyle for yourself and her down the road
Another thing, what would you all consider a good career for a traditional man.
@The Lion Generally speaking, women are less logical and more emotional. Showing some graph about economic consequences of both parents working would be much less effective than painting the imagery of the life you imagine for the two of you together, and let her imagination run with it.
I mean it seems broad but to be engaged in the home life and care for your family, and I intend on having many children so I would need a high pay grade.
@The Lion Something that can support a family and that you are good at. There is 0 virtue in being poor.
@The Lion trades are trad in the masculine sense but being something like an engineer or financier gives you a lot of freedom to be with your kids
I wish I chose a career where I could listen to audiobooks all day